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Post by 21146 on Jan 13, 2012 22:23:38 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2012 23:43:21 GMT
That seems like one hell of a trip across London (and back again) to transfer a train a few miles as the crow files.
I assume the routing was Ruislip LUL - Ruislip NR (reverse) - Greenford - Ealing Broadway - Acton Wells Jct - NLL - Stratford - Lea Valley Line - South Tottenham - Gospel Oak - Willesden Jct - Stonebridge Park?
There must be a reason, but why couldn't LUL transfer the train, using the Battery Locos over its own network via the Met, Jubilee, Bakerloo via a Reverse at some location?
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jan 14, 2012 0:44:23 GMT
That seems like one hell of a trip across London (and back again) to transfer a train a few miles as the crow files. I assume the routing was Ruislip LUL - Ruislip NR (reverse) - Greenford - Ealing Broadway - Acton Wells Jct - NLL - Stratford - Lea Valley Line - South Tottenham - Gospel Oak - Willesden Jct - Stonebridge Park? There must be a reason, but why couldn't LUL transfer the train, over its own network via a Reverse at some location? . Unless it needed turning? Otherwise, you could just reverse at Willesden and omit NLL - Stratford - Lea Valley Line - South Tottenham - Gospel Oak - Willesden Jct from the route above (edited to remove off topic material to its own thread) |
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Post by astock5000 on Jan 14, 2012 0:55:45 GMT
There must be a reason, but why couldn't LUL transfer the train, using the Battery Locos over its own network via the Met, Jubilee, Bakerloo via a Reverse at some location? Could it have something to do with the new signalling on the Jubilee line? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2012 6:44:29 GMT
I was wondering the same thing why it was going via Network Rail, interesting enough it actually returns via the Jubilee Line overnight
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2012 18:45:04 GMT
I was wondering the same thing why it was going via Network Rail, interesting enough it actually returns via the Jubilee Line overnight There may have been some other maintenance that prevented it from going LUL in the first instance. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2012 20:28:05 GMT
Greetings
as some of you may know, the train also ran the previous friday,
type 8M99 into youtube and there are several videos shot at wacky locations well off the regular track for Battery Locos
My Video shows it here departing West Ruislip on NR
I've heard reports that this weeks train is returning via NR leaving Stonebridge Pk around Lunchtime on Sunday.
anyone able to confirm ??
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Post by ruislip on Jan 15, 2012 4:22:07 GMT
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the engine would fit into the Jubilee/Bakerloo tunnels enroute.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2012 10:04:36 GMT
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the engine would fit into the Jubilee/Bakerloo tunnels enroute. No it wouldn't, you're quite right. THowever, the point is, the large locomotive is being used to deliver the two smaller ones and their trucks via NR tracks because for whatever reason, the usual route the small battery locos would have taken on their own, probably via the tunnels, was unavailable |
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Post by 21146 on Jan 15, 2012 15:04:03 GMT
Well of course the obvious way to do the move would have been onto the Met via Ruislip siding, then via the Jubilee and Bakerloo Lines, and probably reversing via London Road depot. But of course since the advent of the Jubilee's all-singing all-dancing TBTC signalling system this can only be done after Close of Traffic under Jubilee Line engineers possession (another step forward!). I would also think the route taken was designed to avoid reversing and thus either employ an extra Class 66 or have a single diesel uncouple and runaround somewhere. When LU was really progressive they had an un-electrified connection with BR at Olympia and the formation would have taken a short cut via the WLL on battery power. If anyone doubts this could occur: www.flickr.com/photos/24772733@N05/2570751006/ |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2012 16:55:55 GMT
Greetings I've heard reports that this weeks train is returning via NR leaving Stonebridge Pk around Lunchtime on Sunday. anyone able to confirm ?? Charmed Phil It did run indeed, 8M01 11:18 Stonebridge Park-Ruislip Depot with GBRf 66730 on the helm, it arrived at Ruislip Depot 30mins early as it didn't recess at Acton Yard |
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Post by dagdave on Jan 15, 2012 19:38:19 GMT
Yes, it is done to avoid the issues with TBTC on the Jubilee Line. The TRV suffers from this also because it is not fitted with TBTC equipment.
Tonight the TRV transfers from Neasden to Stonebridge Depot via an OSP / Possession. Tomorrow evening it will record the Bakerloo Line to a STN and on Tuesday night it does the reverse Possession / OSP to get back to Neasden Depot.
So three shifts to do one recording shift.
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Post by cso on Jan 15, 2012 20:04:12 GMT
Would it have cost that much more (in the grand scheme of things) to fit at least some of the Battery Locos with TBTC? Then they might have been able to pull things like the TRV though...
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Post by dagdave on Jan 15, 2012 20:22:35 GMT
Some battery locos have been...teething problems though
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2012 20:28:29 GMT
Some battery locos have been...teething problems though Aren't the Schomas getting the TBTC stuff as well? |
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Post by dagdave on Jan 15, 2012 20:30:07 GMT
Yes they are. There are a couple at Highgate sidings at the moment
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2012 20:03:57 GMT
Yes they are. There are a couple at Highgate sidings at the moment Thanks for the information |
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Post by metroland on Jan 18, 2012 11:00:52 GMT
Does anyone know how long these 8M99's will last? Seems to be one each Friday. Obv the light gets slightly better each week at 16:40-ish when it departs West Ruislip. Do I need to get out soon or can I wait?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2012 17:24:52 GMT
Does anyone know how long these 8M99's will last? Seems to be one each Friday. Obv the light gets slightly better each week at 16:40-ish when it departs West Ruislip. Do I need to get out soon or can I wait? There Isn't one this week. |
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Post by metroland on Jan 19, 2012 17:37:24 GMT
OK thanks for that - saved me a trip
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Post by 21146 on May 31, 2012 8:33:49 GMT
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Post by Ben on May 31, 2012 10:41:48 GMT
Least it'll become easier again when the Croxley Link opens.
Seems frustrating though that some form of rudimentary dual signalling couldn't have been spliced between Finchley Road and Baker Street.
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Post by causton on May 31, 2012 11:12:48 GMT
Anyone know when the next one will be?  |
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2012 17:35:55 GMT
Anyone know when the next one will be? Tomorrow, Friday, the first of June. Normal timings then returns as 8M01 Stonebridge park (23.05) to West Ruislip (01.55) |
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2012 17:41:14 GMT
What are the usual 8M99 timings?
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Post by 21146 on May 31, 2012 23:42:05 GMT
Planned for today (Friday)
Train 8M99, formed of GBRF class 66 loco, LU Battery loco, LU wagons, LU Battery loco, will run as follows:-
West Ruislip LUL Depot
16 42
via Acton, Stratford, South Tottenham and Gospel Oak
Willesden Junction DC
21/39
Stonebridge Park
21 45
Stonebridge Park Recp Road 22
21 48
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2012 8:05:49 GMT
8M99 running again tomorrow monday 18th june
Normal timings, if anybody wants timings please contact me.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2012 17:53:15 GMT
8M99 Cancelled this evening
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2012 11:34:46 GMT
8M99 Cancelled this evening Means 8M01 is also a non runner. |
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