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Post by causton on Dec 13, 2011 14:50:49 GMT
Short answer: no - as I suspect the person who made up this rule isn't on the forum so we don't know what's going through their heads!
A few theories are that people with SLRs will spend too much time setting up their shots and delay the whole event... or that people will sell their shots for money. Yes, you can do that with many other cameras that are not SLRs, but the notice is worded very clumsily!
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Post by Chris W on Dec 13, 2011 16:51:02 GMT
and to follow on from causton's post.... is also open to a variety of interpretations... Both Amateur Photographer and the British Journal of Photography have reported and questioned the ban... the latter of which has also issued a FOI (Freedom of Information) request to TfL. If this is a move by TfL to covertly test a policy to prevent photography on the underground without actually banning it (making it harder for images to be captured in low light without using flash, by preventing cameras that allow you to capture better images in lower light) then two things may happen... - Sadly the irresponsible element of enthusiasts will choose to use use flash... as many tourists do on platforms (I hope no member/reader of the forum does)
- Non-DSLR cameras compete and sometimes surpass the performance of older DSLRs in lower light conditions.... they certainly will increasingly equal the performance of mid priced DSLRs in the future... so the ban is effectively pointless in the first place
Note the term has been used of ‘professional camera’. A DSLR is NOT indicative that the user is professional... countless enthusiasts have them to capture non-commercial images for their own personal use. I personally have a pro-sumer Canon DSLR aimed at higher end amateurs that would equate to very low end camera for a professional. That’s not to say that a professional wouldn’t simply use a high-end compact camera to get around the rule in the first place.... making it redundant and undoubtedly a nonsense rule. Is speed through the station an issue?? Can anyone genuinely tell if which photographer, whether they be holding a compact or DSLR, will take longer than another to pass through a station. Simply top and tail each group with a Museum volunteer/staff member to ensure that no stragglers get left behind or hold up the group. On a personal note, my opinion is that railway companies can come across as a hero, or a zero in their dealings with their customers. Unless TfL have got an outstanding reason, something they have failed to explain to date*, whoever has suggested this rule and possibly imposed it upon the LT Museum, isn't so much of a zero... but has intentionally put TfL in negative territory.... * IMO if the spiral staircase was genuinely the reason then all photography would have be banned just on the staircase... and not just DSLRs for the entire visit! Lets wait until the FOI request materialises
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2011 17:10:19 GMT
"Note the term has been used of ‘professional camera’. A DSLR is NOT indicative that the user is professional... countless enthusiasts have them to capture non-commercial images for their own personal use. I personally have a pro-sumer Canon DSLR aimed at higher end amateurs that would equate to very low end camera for a professional. That’s not to say that a professional wouldn’t simply use a high-end compact camera to get around the rule in the first place.... making it redundant and undoubtedly a nonsense rule." My Nikon P90 will have no problem with taking high quality photos without a Flash. I hope LT/TFL is training it's staff how to identify an SLR camera! XF
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Post by 21146 on Dec 13, 2011 18:16:47 GMT
If any DSLR ban is introduced and enforced as strictly as the so-called booze ban, I wouldn't think enthusiasts have too much to worry about.
(Except that staff would rather bully gricers than drunks.)
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Post by pitdiver on Dec 14, 2011 10:25:51 GMT
I assume that the notice specifically mentions dslr cameras. Does this mean that if I turn up with one of my high end 35mm film cameras I will be allowed to take pictures. Using fast film DIN 800 Portra for instance. Or will someone challenge me to prove my camera is not digital. Just a thought?
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Post by Ben on Dec 14, 2011 10:36:02 GMT
Could it be because they themselves want to do a high deffinition photoshoot and charge for it? Or some kind of commercial contract relating to the sites function and paying customers?
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Post by v52gc on Dec 14, 2011 10:38:06 GMT
I already posted this elsewhere but it seems relevant here as well. I asked the LTM to clearly explain what is and isn't allowed (including the 35mm...) as I have a Panasonic G1 which to all intents and purposes looks like a DSLR but is a MFT (MicroFourThirds). The reply I got what that the ban is on cameras with interchangeable lenses.
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Post by trt on Dec 14, 2011 11:27:47 GMT
Good thing. There's so much nasty dust down there, I'd hate to get any into the workings of my DSLR. Maybe I'll take my Bronica ETRS down with me instead.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2012 9:59:14 GMT
Simply cannot get my head around why?
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Post by Chris W on Apr 18, 2012 12:02:33 GMT
According to the British Journal of Photography TfL has done some backtrackingIMO reading between the lines I rather get the impression that TfL are trying to control the taking of images on their property (perhaps generating an additional stream of income). If I'm right a vastly inflated amount would be charged at an official photography event/visit
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Post by castlebar on Apr 18, 2012 12:38:35 GMT
@ Chris W > > Couldn't agree more. I read between the lines too and this seems to be a purely commercial decision based on income generation rather than the waffle about delays assembling tripods etc. They really do talk down to us and try and take us all for being idiots sometimes.
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