Special Edition 38ts Met edition

I wonder if it will have the horrid brown roof. I suspect it may be cheaper to renumber and put new destinations on an old Bakerloo 1938 - if you can find one!

I also heard that EFE are looking to do a model of 1959 stock unit 1012-2012-9013-1013 which was the first unit on the Piccadilly line in Dec 1959. That will be nice as long as it does not have 'LONDON TRANSPORT' on the trailer and NDM.

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Are there enough livery variations to make the A60/62 stock a viable proposition for a model? I can think of at least six >>1) The first delivery's with black roofs 2)Silver with grey roofs 3/4/5) The experimental liveries on the ELL 6) Corporate livery (refurbished stock).

I would like lots more variation done too. But the tooling cost is far to high in a recession along with current demand. So what EFE have done is kept the same 38 Stock mould, but created Dino, NSE, IOW red w yellow fronts, red with brown roof, red with red roof, the list continues...

Also the 38TS, 59 and 62 trailers are all the same mould.

So I imagine what will happen next is he will keep that same 38/59/62 mould just paint it up in different colours. Hence why the 59 Stock Picc line is next...!

I bought the A Stock from Radley models and was thoroughly disappointed! I wont be buying anything resin from them again.

Yup, warped, very difficult to fix body to chassis, doors are wrong - the window should go up to the frame. The running quality is poor even with pinpoint bearings. Its the bogies.

Have bought a battery loco one powered and non powered. They are in white metal and are quite heavy. I modified the powered on to hold a tenshodo via a bracket and not the solid fixing that Radley do. Runs like a dream now. However I can survive without my A Stock. Anyway a class 08 will be pulling the trailers around. The spare motor has gone to the battery loco, so not all lost.

The saloon doors are modelled wrong. The window should be larger in the horizontal axis, the window frame needs to meet at the car body, but on the model there is a gap. Basically the edge of the door window should meet the edge of the car body.

There should be some plastic injection moulded bogies - that would make it run like a dream! ;-)

A discussion with Charles Petty of DC Kits opens the door as to the reason that injection moulded plastic is a non-starter. The costs are horrendous!

If you are prepared to shop around EFE tube stock can be picked up quite reasonably. You just have to be patient. I recently won a 38TS NDM for £16 on the site of sin (ebay!). It was the last vehicle I needed to complete my second seven-car set. The other two for the three-car part of the set were picked up at Acton in March for £25 for the pair. At the moment the set has three different roof colours but I'll repaint them to represent the dirty look they all had.

Sadly, LT models will always occupy a minority market within model manufacturers eyes. Airfix (GMR) began work on 38TS before they went bust but that is the only interest that seems to have been shown. Bachmann do the odd LT liveried Pannier but these are probably with the collectors brigade in mind. This having been said, I recently mentioned to the Hornby rep for my local model shop that CO/CP stock could be done with one basic bodyshell and he seemed interested. If enough of us put this down on the Hornby website customer survey who knows?

As for the EFE MET 38TS. £150 may be pricey but, if it is an LT Museum Shop exclusive, the proceeds are at least going to a good cause!

Can anyone confirm that the livery is accurate for the preserved unit (brown roof, red window pillars)? www.efezone.co.uk says "All four models are re-workings of earlier releases 80003, 80103, 80203 & 80303" - the Piccadilly unit. The ELL one was, but the livery should be very different so I doubt it, especially as that one came out years ago and the LTM one was delayed due to production problems. I think there could be confusion caused by its catalogue no. being 99931 (ELL was 99931). The photo on the LTM's website is of the ELL set.

As the 3D Printing technology develops costs will drop and I predict it will be possible for a few of us to get together and finance a limited run of something like a train of A Stock.

The key to this project would be not only finance but also getting good quality scale 3D drawings produced.

Nigel, it is the time spent in CAD as well as doing the research. I expect my first OO scale test model to be printed in the next week, or so. I have spent a significant amount of time getting to know Sketch-up and finding sufficient plug-in tools to make the compound curve surfaces. This model is a 1973 DM complete with bogies (except wheels, bearings and motor units) and interior. This prints out for $100. I believe this cost will get cheaper and the only limitation in the printing process is the resolution of the 3D printer itself.

I may be able to help......

Mikebuzz, to my knowledge W&C has never been done either in RTR or kit form. Interesting idea though, and there is one sitting on the tracks at Acton.

MARC models are about to introduce resin bodied kits for the 1940 W&C stock. www.marcmodels.co.uk

Website appears to be out of date.