chesham shuttle in operation

Probably when the area is resignalled.

The through service to Chesham is always going to be a problem operationally given the single track status of the branch. After the track mods are carried out, when there is a point failure there will be no Chesham service - progress?

In the past to replace a couple of points or extend a platform was not a big deal and was a lot cheaper to do in real terms than it is today.

Is this the legacy of PPP and OTT H&E?

Sometimes I think I am in a sane world and then I wake up


XF

Oh yeah, whoops .

Neither 7 or 6 car will fit.

Keeping a 50 year old train will run well, won't it? MetControl has explained this before I believe;

They will be gone when the S Stocks come in though.

Can someone remind me why replacing the Chesham shutle with a patchy and unpredictable through service was considered a good idea? With the shuttle there seems to be far less chance of Chesham customers being left without a service when things go wrong.
Forgive me if this has been chewed over before, but if I remember correctly, the Epping/Ongar shuttle worked well from an operational point of view, and the Chesham shuttle has no intermediate stations. It is a self contained entity almost guaranteed to work whereas the long main line is logically subject to far more frequent failures of one type of another. The advantage of the Chesham shuttle is that it provides a link to NR services at Chalfont & Latimer even at times when the Met's Amersham service is interrupted further south.
If Chesham Station can accept a direct service from London, then the length of the train used for the shuttle service is surely not an issue.

@ charleyfarley > > + 1

We still (but hopefully for not much longer) seem to exist in a society where some in "authority" feel that we should be grateful (to them) for what we're given. In the internet age, we can all see though their comments about "the public have been consulted", and we can organise much better than ever before. Those who "won't" because THEY don't want to, rather than "can't" will be replaced one day. Bring it on!!

I'm not getting into the debate - again - but to answer a couple of points above...

The bay has been decommissioned already. Then brought back into use before being decommissioned once more. As I write, the bay at Chalfont is out of commission. It will be recommissioned (for the last time ) for the weekend I mentioned.

The Chesham through service was first and foremost introduced after a very long campaign by local residents for more through services. The fact that S-stock doesn't fit in the bay is a happy coincidence.

Chesham is just 1 station on the Metropolitan Line, and is treated the same as the others. Whilst the consequences of a cancellation are probably harder than anywhere else, and whilst the logistics of providing the service are slightly more sensitive than anywhere else, it is just another station on the line.

We try to make sure all of our stations receive the service we advertise, but it goes without saying that sometimes this doesn't always work out - for one reason or another.

There will never be other stock used to run a shuttle. There will not be an A-stock retained to operate a shuttle. The pointwork is unlikely to be moved so that the bay can be lengthened.

Substitute "Chesham" or "Chalfont" for "Catford" and here's your answer.



Rich

My expectation is that when the new junction is installed and commissioned, the 'single line' track between the new junction and the Bay Road at Chalfont will be recovered.

Bold? I think not. You've said it yourself that in the (current) plans, there is only a proposal to move the junction - not extend the bay.

There are also plenty of other proposals within the upgrade project as it stands. There are also plenty of other existing proposals which fall prior to the upgrade plan.

Much as that was the subject of a sketch in a comedy show, you'd be surprised what would happen if the same was done in our control room ;D ;D

Rumbled ;D

Bronzeonion,

Keeping all the T/Ops at a depot stock trained to work a D stock on a rare basis would not be cost effective, far easier and cheaper to run one stock on a line. I recall stock training when I passed out for motors on CP/CO, R stock, then C stock and eventually D stock!