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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2011 11:15:53 GMT
What is happenong between Barbican and Farringdon?
I don't often go along that part of the line but is looks as if major works and changes are being done.
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Post by Harsig on Nov 25, 2011 12:23:33 GMT
It's all to do with Crossrail.
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Post by chrisvandenkieboom on Nov 25, 2011 13:41:54 GMT
Yup, Barbican & Farringdon will be one CR station. Making it suddenly look like RER A.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2011 14:16:56 GMT
Isn't Moorgate and Liverpool Street going to sort of 'merge' as well?
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Post by railtechnician on Nov 25, 2011 14:28:54 GMT
Isn't Moorgate and Liverpool Street going to sort of 'merge' as well? I'm not sure that 'merge' is the correct term really as the two Underground stations will be at the east and west ends of the Crossrail station. Perhaps a little similar to how Paddington is at present, one cannot really call the two Underground stations one although they are quite closely connected. Thinking about Paddington that is where the greatest works will no doubt be, my recollection from doing the enabling works survey there 16 or 17 years ago was that 28 new escalators were to be installed for Crossrail. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2011 14:48:58 GMT
Thanks. Point taken. On a similar note, it would make sense for Bank and Monument to become "Bank-Monument" or something like, and indeed this was once proposed. However, I was told that the fire brigade objected. Presumably, then, Barbican and Farringdon must retain their individual identities, as will Moorgate and Liverpool Street.
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Post by chrisvandenkieboom on Nov 25, 2011 15:10:26 GMT
They will, but the Crossrail station will have the names of both, similar to the Parisian Châtelet (Line 1, 4, 7, 11 and 14)-Les Halles (Line 4) (RER A, B and D).
But the largest station complex stays St. Lazare, with too damn many stations interlinked and lines actually running between them XD
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2011 15:25:48 GMT
Indeedie. You can travel in the area Saint-Lazare, Haussmann Saint-Lazare, Saint-Augustin, Auber, Opéra, Havre Caumartin, all underground, without stepping on a train! ;D ;D
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Post by chrisvandenkieboom on Nov 25, 2011 18:43:47 GMT
The complex has grown too large, you could basically travel around northwest Paris underground, without a train. Does it require a ticket, though?
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Post by norbitonflyer on Nov 25, 2011 22:50:49 GMT
Thanks. Point taken. On a similar note, it would make sense for Bank and Monument to become "Bank-Monument" or something like, and indeed this was once proposed. However, I was told that the fire brigade objected. Presumably, then, Barbican and Farringdon must retain their individual identities, as will Moorgate and Liverpool Street. They will have to anyway, to avoid having two consecutive stations on the same line with the same name. No such problem exists with Bank/Monument, so they could have the same name. The complex has grown too large, you could basically travel around northwest Paris underground, without a train. Does it require a ticket, though? yes, as you have to go through the barriers to get in, |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2011 23:23:01 GMT
Bankument? ;D
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Post by phillw48 on Nov 25, 2011 23:52:55 GMT
Monuank? No better not go there.  |
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Post by chrisvandenkieboom on Nov 26, 2011 9:55:54 GMT
At least we'll know that they'll won't try to change at Monuank  |
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Post by rapidtransitman on Nov 26, 2011 15:34:46 GMT
There's a Montauk Long Island RailRoad commuter rail station outside NYC...
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Post by mikebuzz on Nov 27, 2011 20:50:17 GMT
Monument to Banks? We're going that way...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2011 12:50:58 GMT
Sort of drifting off the thread here, but I understand from friends who have been to Moscow that interchange stations on the Metro there have different names for the station according to which line they are on. A cursory look at the Moscow Metro map seems to confirm this.
So, for example, even if Monument and Bank were the same station, rather than two nearby stations linked by an escalator, they would actually have FIVE different names, one for each line served. Yes, I know there are six lines, but even the Moscow Metro wouldn't have two names for the same platforms served by two lines!
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Post by chrisvandenkieboom on Dec 2, 2011 13:04:42 GMT
Well, the W&C platforms would be named City, for instance.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Dec 2, 2011 22:33:30 GMT
Sort of drifting off the thread here, but I understand from friends who have been to Moscow that interchange stations on the Metro there have different names for the station according to which line they are on. A cursory look at the Moscow Metro map seems to confirm this. In the same way that the Hamptead Tube's station between Leicester Square and Goodge Street was called Oxford Street, rather than Tottenham court Road, which was (and still is!) ambiguous for that line |
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Post by edwin on Dec 4, 2011 2:50:02 GMT
^^Moscow Metro stations tend to be far more spaced out than LU stations, and every line also tends to have a ticket hall at both ends, much like how Crossrail stations will be.
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Post by fleetline on Dec 6, 2011 19:39:02 GMT
Come 2018.......
"This is Liverpool Street, change here for the Northern Line...."
That's gonna sound weird from the word go.
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Post by chrisvandenkieboom on Dec 6, 2011 20:35:24 GMT
Will likely only be played on the Central & Crossrail. Not on the SSR lines. Also the Northern line might have been fully split up by then. Also more like "This is Liverpool Street & Moorgate, change here for the Circle, Hammersmith & City and Metropolitan lines, and for the City (formerly Northern) line from Moorgate, and the Central line from Liverpool Street. This is a Crossrail train to Heathrow Terminal 4."
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Post by norbitonflyer on Dec 6, 2011 21:11:18 GMT
Will likely only be played on the Central & Crossrail. Why on the Central? You can still change more easily at Bank |
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Post by chrisvandenkieboom on Dec 7, 2011 15:21:24 GMT
Oh yea, right.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2011 23:34:14 GMT
The complex has grown too large, you could basically travel around northwest Paris underground, without a train. Does it require a ticket, though? yes, as you have to go through the barriers to get in, You can walk underground from Opéra to saint-Augustin (distance ca 1.1 km) and you will need to use your ticket five times :entering the Metro (when starting the trip), entering and exiting both the RER A and E. |
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Post by chrisvandenkieboom on Dec 8, 2011 15:47:47 GMT
Well, the amount of ticket barriers at Châtelet-Les Halles is just crazy. First you enter Forum des Halles via the western(?) entrance, then you have to find the entrance for the metro, and then you have to go through 3 ticket barriers. And that for a so-called 'single station complex'. At least there's less of a chance of fare evasion  |
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