|
|
Post by plasmid on Nov 30, 2011 14:48:49 GMT
I think the 1992 stock will be in service at least another 25-30 years. If they have spend £150 million on new bogies they are not going to replace them just yet. If they do well thats £150 million down the drain then! The 1992 stock are good trains the fastest trains off the mark and make a nice noise when moving off. Unfortantly the 1992 stock was built on the cheap and not much thought was made when making it. Me personaly like the 1996 stock trains! 25-30 years? The design life is only 35 years so no chance in that. The 1992 stock was introduced in 1993 so the expected withdrawal date (according to design life) is 2025 - 2028. |
|
|
|
Post by chrisvandenkieboom on Nov 30, 2011 14:58:18 GMT
But the design life has been exceeded by many stocks in the past, including the A stock. 92ts will live for much longer....
|
|
Ben
fotopic... whats that?
Posts: 4,282 
|
Post by Ben on Nov 30, 2011 17:17:44 GMT
It can only be exceeded where its possible. The fact the 92ts has had so much work on them so far just to get them into a decent-ish state rather implies they won't do 48 years total as suggested. To compare it to the A stock, which has the best build quality the system has seen, is pointless. Another 20 years for them would be pushing it.
|
|
|
|
Post by norbitonflyer on Nov 30, 2011 20:49:32 GMT
The 19060ts were prototypes, they wouldn't be refurbished, there would be no point, as prototypes last only about 5 years. Some prototypes lasted a lot longer than that! The 1956 stock, for example, worked along side the 1959 stock for the best part of 40 years. The 1935 stock found several uses on the Central Line and Aldwych shuttles until the mid 1960s. And of course the 1960 stock itself was used on the Ongar shuttle right up to 1994. On the surface, the District's two trains of A stock worked alongside the B stock for 20 years, and the original S stock motor coaches from 1925 (prototypes for what became the T stock), ended their days on the East London Line in 1951, running with a one-off driving trailer that was even older. |
|
kabsonline
Best SSL Train: S Stock Best Tube Train: 92 Stock
Posts: 686
|
Post by kabsonline on Nov 30, 2011 21:52:35 GMT
The 92 stock aren't in that bad a state at the moment reguarding the engine etc side of things. There have been some technical problems in the past but there ok now. The only thing I can see stopping them from lasting is not getting a proper refurbishment unlike other tube stocks. There appearance is in a poor state even after being refreshed with vandalism.
|
|
North End
Beneath Newington Causeway
Posts: 1,769
|
Post by North End on Nov 30, 2011 23:05:57 GMT
The 92 stock aren't in that bad a state at the moment reguarding the engine etc side of things. There have been some technical problems in the past but there ok now. The only thing I can see stopping them from lasting is not getting a proper refurbishment unlike other tube stocks. There appearance is in a poor state even after being refreshed with vandalism. There are three main issues which could affect 92 stock's abilitity to last: 1) Electrical component obsolescence 2) Condition of bodyshells 3) Requirement for disability compliance The third of those is a non-issue, however the first two could prove problematic. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2011 23:06:03 GMT
Indeed, I am no LUL staff member but it doesn't seem like the 92 stock are doing any worse than the other rolling stock.
For the first of the "modern trains" I think the features were very innovative and we were lucky to get a full upgrade of the central line in what were unstable times!
|
|
metman
Global Moderator
5056 05/12/1961-23/04/2012 RIP
Posts: 7,421
|
Post by metman on Nov 30, 2011 23:55:41 GMT
The 19060ts were prototypes, they wouldn't be refurbished, there would be no point, as prototypes last only about 5 years. Some prototypes lasted a lot longer than that! The 1956 stock, for example, worked along side the 1959 stock for the best part of 40 years. The 1935 stock found several uses on the Central Line and Aldwych shuttles until the mid 1960s. And of course the 1960 stock itself was used on the Ongar shuttle right up to 1994. On the surface, the District's two trains of A stock worked alongside the B stock for 20 years, and the original S stock motor coaches from 1925 (prototypes for what became the T stock), ended their days on the East London Line in 1951, running with a one-off driving trailer that was even older. There is in fact one prototype still running that is now very old. A stock unit 5000-6000-6001-5001 ;D |
|
Ben
fotopic... whats that?
Posts: 4,282
|
Post by Ben on Nov 30, 2011 23:58:15 GMT
Tom, I take your point, and yes it was good that something did happen atall back then. But the features weren't as suitable as some on their prototypes, and the upgrade was anything but full. Such is the begining of the life of the 19 90[/u]ts...  |
|
