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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2011 20:55:03 GMT
In previous years, there has been no Met line service north of Rickmansworth on boxing day. Does anyone who's in the know, know what the service will be on Monday 26th December this year?
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Post by chrisvandenkieboom on Nov 21, 2011 20:57:52 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2011 21:00:43 GMT
In previous years, there has been no Met line service north of Rickmansworth on boxing day. Does anyone who's in the know, know what the service will be on Monday 26th December this year? Depends on whether T/Ops vote to strike or not? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2011 21:10:01 GMT
In previous years, there has been no Met line service north of Rickmansworth on boxing day. Does anyone who's in the know, know what the service will be on Monday 26th December this year? Last year was the first year the Met ran to all destinations (Except nothing into the city) TTN220/10 BST-UX 10 mins BST-WF 10 mins BST-CM 30 mins (Fast) BST-AM 30 mins (Fast) 29 trains worked With 2 trains 470 & 471 spare in Neasden for a Rugby match at Wembley. This year a full sunday service will operate to from 0830. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2011 21:17:15 GMT
In previous years, there has been no Met line service north of Rickmansworth on boxing day. Does anyone who's in the know, know what the service will be on Monday 26th December this year? Last year was the first year the Met ran to all destinations (Except nothing into the city) TTN220/10 BST-UX 10 mins BST-WF 10 mins BST-CM 30 mins (Fast) BST-AM 30 mins (Fast) 29 trains worked With 2 trains 470 & 471 spare in Neasden for a Rugby match at Wembley. This year a full sunday service will operate to from 0830. Strike or no strike, it won't be a full service on Boxing Day |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Nov 21, 2011 22:09:19 GMT
Last year was the first year the Met ran to all destinations (Except nothing into the city) TTN220/10 BST-UX 10 mins BST-WF 10 mins BST-CM 30 mins (Fast) BST-AM 30 mins (Fast) 29 trains worked With 2 trains 470 & 471 spare in Neasden for a Rugby match at Wembley. This year a full sunday service will operate to from 0830. Last year only 4 trains operated Baker Street - Harrow 11.00-21.00. |
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Post by citysig on Nov 21, 2011 23:02:04 GMT
Last year the threatened industrial action did not materialise, and the full advertised Boxing Day service operated.
This year there is no rumour of industrial action, therefore I would imagine the full advertised Boxing Day service will operate.
The Boxing Day service, from what I have seen, will see basically a reduced (call it ¾ Sunday) service operating from around 0800 to all destinations.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2011 23:46:00 GMT
I'm sorry, but the industrial action certainly did materialise on Boxing Day 2010.
The planned service was to have been 386 trains network-wide, of which 29 were scheduled on the Met. In the event, just 87 trains operated network-wide of which 4 were on the Met between Baker Street and Harrow from c.11.00 to just after 21.00.
The plan to operate a Sunday service over the majority of the system (including Amersham and Chesham but excluding sections closed for engineering work) from c.08.00 or soon after, backfired badly.
Details of the services operated (and those not) are in Underground News for February 2011.
As a matter of interest, the service on Boxing Day for 2009 was 204 trains network-wide with 11 trains on the Met. In this there was no service north of Rickmansworth or round to Watford.
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Post by ianvisits on Nov 22, 2011 9:09:54 GMT
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Post by citysig on Nov 22, 2011 10:38:45 GMT
 I stand corrected on all counts - and blame blurred vision yesterday evening  I could have sworn the action "fizzled out" last year and didn't really knock everything. Clearly very wrong. Again, for that I blame Christmas spirit for that lack of judgement. I'd heard rumblings but nothing solid for this year - but clearly there have been more serious rumblings than I have heard.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2011 10:42:29 GMT
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Post by pitdiver on Nov 22, 2011 10:49:08 GMT
Does it not get a bit confusing when Christmas Day and Boxing Day occur on a Sat/Sunday. This year for instance we get an extra Bank Holiday as Christmas Day is on a Saturday. I have never heard of a time when there was anything north of Ricky on the Met. I have noticed though that more and more stations open on the 26th. Don't think that will happen ever on the Met. Can't see the residents of Moor Park for instance wanting to travel on that day. Always on of the bonus's of working on that part of the Network. Always had Boxing Day off.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2011 10:49:09 GMT
Expect a good dose of 'NC' action this coming Boxing Day 'if' the planned timetable is in operation!
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Post by DWS on Nov 22, 2011 10:52:04 GMT
Last year the threatened industrial action did not materialise, and the full advertised Boxing Day service operated. This year there is no rumour of industrial action, therefore I would imagine the full advertised Boxing Day service will operate. The Boxing Day service, from what I have seen, will see basically a reduced (call it ¾ Sunday) service operating from around 0800 to all destinations. Tube Drivers to vote on Boxing Day strike 14 Nov 2011 The 2,200 tube drivers who are members of ASLEF will be balloted to seek their support for industrial action on Boxing Day. ASLEF is the majority union for the grade. The union’s executive was told that negotiators with the company had failed to reach an agreement on the terms of Boxing Day working and it has now informed the company that it intends to ballot its members employed by LUL for strike action. The result of the ballot will be announced on 14 December. The union wants all Boxing Day working to be voluntary. ‘That is what we are seeking from the company,’ says union executive committee member Terry Wilkinson. However, it is unlikely that this would attract many volunteers unless there was an incentive. ‘Something like triple time and a day in lieu would, I am sure, ensure there were takers,’ Terry says. |
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Post by chrisvandenkieboom on Nov 22, 2011 16:33:08 GMT
Um, yea. If they decide to strike, they'd might as well do something... whatever.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2011 17:37:12 GMT
I stand corrected on all counts - and blame blurred vision yesterday evening I could have sworn the action "fizzled out" last year and didn't really knock everything. You wouldn't remember what was happening last year as I did your ET Boxing Day. Don't think we turned a wheel until just before 11!! ;D ;D |
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Post by North End on Nov 22, 2011 21:31:30 GMT
I stand corrected on all counts - and blame blurred vision yesterday evening I could have sworn the action "fizzled out" last year and didn't really knock everything. You wouldn't remember what was happening last year as I did your ET Boxing Day. Don't think we turned a wheel until just before 11!! ;D ;D My line was the same. Had all the drivers turned up as booked, no service would have run - if we think back to the snow over Christmas Day with trains laid up in sidings, by the time they went to start up on Boxing Day nearly every train had some defect of some kind preventing it from entering service until things had warmed up. |
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Post by suncloud on Nov 22, 2011 23:13:29 GMT
I know this is heading to a repeat of last years thread...
I do have some understanding of being asked to work when contracts or precedent show a given day off...
However my sympathy is limited. I've not had a boxing day off since 2004 (when I was between jobs over the Christmas period), and not made it back to my parents on Christmas Day three times because I've had to be back at work on the 26th (not helped by a lack of NR trains). I don't get any extra pay (just lieu days for any bank holiday day worked).
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Post by abe on Nov 23, 2011 10:14:51 GMT
This year for instance we get an extra Bank Holiday as Christmas Day is on a Saturday. According to my calendar, Christmas Day is on Sunday this year... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2011 10:38:27 GMT
And in mine too |
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Post by pitdiver on Nov 23, 2011 14:32:38 GMT
My apologies quite right Christmas day is on the SUNDAY. Still get the extra Bank Holiday though. Assume this will be Sat/Sun service on most lines.
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Post by citysig on Nov 23, 2011 22:12:13 GMT
My apologies quite right Christmas day is on the SUNDAY. Still get the extra Bank Holiday though. Assume this will be Sat/Sun service on most lines. There's a big hole I've been digging in order to hide since my post earlier in this thread. There's room for one more ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2011 20:19:20 GMT
"This year for instance we get an extra Bank Holiday as Christmas Day is on a Saturday"
On my calendar Christmas day is Sunday 25th this year. Next year maybe you should buy your calendar from a reliable source!
But seriously, this year Monday 26th and Tuesday 27th are Public Holidays. So my question is, which day is "Boxing Day"? Is it the day after Christmas Day (Monday) or the second day of the two day Christmas holiday (Tuesday)?
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Post by chrisvandenkieboom on Nov 25, 2011 20:22:23 GMT
Boxing Day is the day after Christmas day.
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Post by Oracle on Nov 25, 2011 20:26:30 GMT
Who can recall when Boxing Day was not a P.H. in Scotland and New Year's Day was not in England/Wales & NI?
Are we the only country in the world that allocates extra P.H. days if Christmas, Boxing Day and New Year's Day falls on a Saturday and / or Sunday?
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Post by chrisvandenkieboom on Nov 25, 2011 20:28:55 GMT
Maybe it has something to do with too powerful unions?
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Post by suncloud on Nov 25, 2011 20:46:47 GMT
In my head, traditionally, Boxing Day is the first 'working' day after Christmas... This year Boxing Day is on the Monday... (I am failing to find a concrete reference to support this happening in the UK though).
However, in terms of public holidays, this year the 'Christmas Day public holiday' is on Monday as Christmas is on Sunday. This means the 'Boxing Day public holiday' rolls over to the Tuesday.
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Post by suncloud on Nov 25, 2011 20:54:19 GMT
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