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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2011 19:23:23 GMT
There has been discussion on this forum about trains having to be checked that they are empty of passengers before proceeding to a siding or depot and the reasons for it.
Today, I came across an item in the Traffic Circulars regarding the RAF Pageant at Hendon, and the arrangements for Colindale station, which was the centre of it all insofar as passenger traffic was concerned.
Supplement to Traffic Circular No.26 applied for Saturday 30/6/34. It contains the following:
Detrainment of Passengers at Colindale for the RAF Pageant:
Commencing with Train 45, arriving at 12.11, and continuing until Train 17, arriving at 15.59, passengers in all trains booked to reverse at Colindale will not be detrained on the northbound platform but will be taken via the siding and detrained on arrival in the southbound platform. Such trains arriving northbound must be stopped in the platform as usual but the guards must not open the doors.
As a matter of interest, the stock required was 96 trains formed 39x7 (4-car north), 39x7 (3-car north) and 18x6 (formed 3+3).
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Post by superteacher on Oct 27, 2011 21:13:38 GMT
There has been discussion on this forum about trains having to be checked that they are empty of passengers before proceeding to a siding or depot and the reasons for it. Today, I came across an item in the Traffic Circulars regarding the RAF Pageant at Hendon, and the arrangements for Colindale station, which was the centre of it all insofar as passenger traffic was concerned. Supplement to Traffic Circular No.26 applied for Saturday 30/6/34. It contains the following: Detrainment of Passengers at Colindale for the RAF Pageant: Commencing with Train 45, arriving at 12.11, and continuing until Train 17, arriving at 15.59, passengers in all trains booked to reverse at Colindale will not be detrained on the northbound platform but will be taken via the siding and detrained on arrival in the southbound platform. Such trains arriving northbound must be stopped in the platform as usual but the guards must not open the doors. As a matter of interest, the stock required was 96 trains formed 39x7 (4-car north), 39x7 (3-car north) and 18x6 (formed 3+3). Can you imagine this happening now!  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2011 21:33:51 GMT
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Post by superteacher on Oct 27, 2011 21:39:46 GMT
I read in Rails Through The Clay that after a sit in protest at Colindale where passengers refused to leave the train after it had been short tripped, they were all taken into the siding! I'm assuming most got off when it returned to the southbound platform!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2011 22:34:56 GMT
Yes - it happened too in my days as a Controller (rightly or wrongly), also at Colindale - many years ago and in the days of stock and guards shortages. They might not have wanted to get off northbound but they soon did southbound once they realised they were going back to whence they came. Again, rightly or wrongly, it was far quicker for that to happen rather than to wait ages for the BT Police to turn up - if they (or he!) ever did. Then, the main objective was to get the service going again as quickly as possible - and the then Operating Manager was soon bellowing down the phone at us finding out why a train hadn't been moved.
Different times now!
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Post by uzairjubilee on Oct 27, 2011 22:48:27 GMT
What was the reason for not detraining on the NB platform?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2011 8:14:42 GMT
Most likely crowd control. There was a subsidiary exit in the middle of the platform opened for these occasions. Long out of use, it can still be made out - bricked up where the wooden doors were at street level.
There are good photos in the LTMs collection of crowds at Colindale station/platform in the 1930s.
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Post by mrfs42 on Oct 28, 2011 17:47:19 GMT
*rummages in library* Oh yes! The whole palaver of double ending and handsignalman to Guard communication wouldn't be popular today. Fascinating read. Here's the full text of the TC Supp on SCRIBD: 37.25, and in best Blue Peter tradition, here's a diagram I prepared earlier......  The magenta text is the numbering of the temporary frame after the cabin at Colindale ignited itself after a plane crashed on the current rails. I wonder just how many people these days would be amazed at the people and planning involved. |
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Post by tubeprune on Nov 1, 2011 21:24:42 GMT
Yes - it happened too in my days as a Controller (rightly or wrongly), also at Colindale - many years ago and in the days of stock and guards shortages. They might not have wanted to get off northbound but they soon did southbound once they realised they were going back to whence they came. Again, rightly or wrongly, it was far quicker for that to happen rather than to wait ages for the BT Police to turn up - if they (or he!) ever did. Then, the main objective was to get the service going again as quickly as possible - and the then Operating Manager was soon bellowing down the phone at us finding out why a train hadn't been moved. Different times now! We used to do this on the late night shunts at S Kensington. If they wouldn't get off on the EB platform we'd do the shunt over the crossover with them on. Once, a punter who didn't get off asked me why the train had stopped as I walked through to change ends!!! I told him we were going back to Baker St. He didn't get it even then. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2011 23:13:07 GMT
I love stories like this and these are excellent insights into the past, and the contrast to today is really something. Keeps the interest going!
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Post by causton on Nov 1, 2011 23:17:32 GMT
Oh indeed... reading all the stories from the TrainWeb District Dave and Tubeprune sites, they are a great insight. More, I say!  |
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