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Post by q8 on Jun 25, 2005 11:22:36 GMT
 Just seen a very old thread on the other forum where the "Guvnor" (DD) says he won't drive a green train. Fair enough. But personally think that a train painted in line colours would look nice. A nice dark green body with lighter green doors and same height band at window level with grey roof would look rather pleasant to mine eye. Better that that revolting red/white/blue muck they are daubed in at present. I think I'll try and fathom this "paint" wotnot and do some colour mods and post the results.
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Post by chris on Jun 25, 2005 15:58:35 GMT
Intresting thought. I have another intresting thought: is the green you see different to the green everyone else see's? If so the underground would look alot different. What I see as green for the District Line may appear blue to you, but we know no different.
Hmmmm, maybe i'm not explaining myself too well.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2005 16:25:50 GMT
There's a book available from the Transport Museum shop, called Underground Movement, quite a weighty tome, but towards the back of said book, it shows pictures of the plans for a line based paint scheme. The D stock was to have two stripes of green running vertically on the cab ends; running in line with the drivers side window, the same two stripes would have been horizontally on the sides of each car. One of the greens was close to Lime, the other, similar to the District Green we have today. I can understand why the 'designers' of the time chose to abandon this idea; those poor confused customer waiting at PG expecting a green stripes train, only to be greeted with a yellow striped train. But, I do think it would have looked quite smart on the front. BTW, the red rectangle would have been kept.
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Post by Chris W on Jun 25, 2005 18:45:17 GMT
Further to tubeoperator92's comment about the 'red rectangle' below the drivers cab on the D78's, what was the thinking behind that anyway. It was on the 73 and 83 tube stock as well.
If it was an adopted front end colour scheme why was it not rolled out across all rolling stock (wasn't this applied at one point to a 59 or 62 tube front cab?)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2005 19:55:58 GMT
You are quite correct Chris W, it was applied to a number of 62's that did the Woodford - Hainault run back in the late 70's early 80's.
AIUI, the idea behind the red rectangle being on the front was to improve train sighting be persons that may be working on the track during traffic hours; a sort of BR's yellow front, as it was.
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Post by Colin on Jun 25, 2005 21:01:39 GMT
I'm sure this has been discussed before somewhere on this forum. I thought the idea behind the current scheme was partly to do with combatting graffiti and mainly to do with being instantly recognisable to tourists. To paint trains in line colours would give the impression of a fragmented railway (which may true internally), which would be against the corporate ideal.
Also, as has been suggested (again), what colour do you paint the C stocks ?
My personal opinion is leave 'em as they are.
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Post by solidbond on Jun 25, 2005 23:05:00 GMT
You are quite correct Chris W, it was applied to a number of 62's that did the Woodford - Hainault run back in the late 70's early 80's. AIUI, the idea behind the red rectangle being on the front was to improve train sighting be persons that may be working on the track during traffic hours; a sort of BR's yellow front, as it was. Not quite - it was applied to two cars of 62's, at one end of each of two units, which to begin with ran as a complete train. IIRC 1445 was one of the cars, but I can't remember the other car number. (although 16?? seems to ring a bell!) A picture of one of the cars (albeit in B&W!) can be seen on my website here mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/LUArchive/html/miscellaneous_0.html |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2005 7:09:23 GMT
Hmm, sure I heard or read somewhere that the red ended 62's involved 4 DM cars. Thinks it's on one of the Underground Stock Remembered videos. But thanks for correcting/updating my post, Solidbond; me memory's a bit lacking for that period |
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Post by chris on Jun 26, 2005 7:15:11 GMT
LU could make loads of money by putting adverts on the side of trains.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2005 7:19:43 GMT
Imagine a C / D stock painted in the colours of an old CO/CP stock......I think that'd be nice! They could have an interior to match!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2005 7:20:47 GMT
On second thoughts the original D stock seat covers (orange and brown patterns) were better - they were cool!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2005 7:27:10 GMT
Advertisments on the sides of trains was tried a few years ago - one complete C Stock train was done up in Yellow Pages adverts [Directory/Business Listings etc] Some of us on 'ere might be able to tell exactly what cars were involved. The seats were also the same as the outside, but there was a few problems in getting the stitching of the letters for each advert correct. IIRC, it wasnt a painted scheme - it was sheets of vynil transfer stuck to the side, and it didnt last long. We also had the 73 stock in American Airlines...there may be others
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2005 7:33:53 GMT
The C stock you mean is on the cover of one edition of 'Londons Underground'
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2005 7:46:57 GMT
Suppose it could be called advertising, but you've also got the 38 Stock on the Isle of Wight, in the Dinosaur Livery
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2005 11:08:17 GMT
Was there some sort of Docklands sponsorship on the experimental coroprate schemes on the ELL? IIRC this was around 1990.
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Post by towerman on Jun 26, 2005 19:51:45 GMT
The other 62TS unit with the red cab end was 1422,although I think the cars done were 1444&1423.
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Post by Christopher J on Jun 26, 2005 20:06:55 GMT
On second thoughts the original D stock seat covers (orange and brown patterns) were better - they were cool!! There's still one or two (maybe even more) D78's going around with that design still on the Drivers Seats. I don't think there are anymore in the Passenger Saloons though. Still, I have yet to see a Dog in public wearing one of these quality items!!! ;D ;D ;D  (This Photo sends me into giggles whenever I see it. ;D) You can also get them in Cushions too, in District, Metropolitan and other LUL seat Moquettes too, I can't remember the website I saw them on and if I recall correctly they weren’t too light on the Wallet either. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2005 20:18:45 GMT
On second thoughts the original D stock seat covers (orange and brown patterns) were better - they were cool!! There's still one or two (maybe even more) D78's going around with that design still on the Drivers Seats. I don't think there are anymore in the Passenger Saloons though. Still, I have yet to see a Dog in public wearing one of these quality items!!! ;D ;D ;D (This Photo sends me into giggles whenever I see it. ;D) Just think, how many people vomited over that fabric before the dog wore it |
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Post by solidbond on Jun 26, 2005 21:52:51 GMT
The other 62TS unit with the red cab end was 1422,although I think the cars done were 1444&1423. Ahh - that's it! But I'm sure the 2 cars that were painted were 1422 and 1445 ;D I'll have to see if I can dig out some of my old photos to confirm |
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Post by solidbond on Jul 5, 2005 20:24:32 GMT
The other 62TS unit with the red cab end was 1422,although I think the cars done were 1444&1423. Ahh - that's it! But I'm sure the 2 cars that were painted were 1422 and 1445 ;D I'll have to see if I can dig out some of my old photos to confirm Have now found the pics. I will upload them to my website as soon as I can. I can also confirm that the 2 cars painted with the red fronts were 1422 + 1445. The middle cars of the train, 1444 + 1423 were NOT painted (and I have the pics to prove it ;D ;D ) |
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Just seen a very old thread on the other forum where the "Guvnor" (DD) says he won't drive a green train. Fair enough. But personally think that a train painted in line colours would look nice.
