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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2011 19:14:45 GMT
Hi All, I remember reading some time ago in an old Railway publication of a C stock that was liveried in a Yellow Pages Advertising wrap, with Yellow pages moquette and adverts internally. I'm led to believe that it was at one point the longest advertising "hoarding" as it were in the UK also? However, the main purpose of this is to ask if anyone out there knows which C stock it was? Additionally, If anyone knows, How long was it inservice for in this guise and are there any traces of it left? Thanks for your time  Matt |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2011 20:04:30 GMT
The "Yellow Pages" C Stock was -
5537 + 5555 + 5593
18.01.98 - Hammersmith to Acton
12.02.98 - Ex Acton and direct into service
21.04.99 - Hammersmith - Neasden (wheel lathe)
19.05.99 - Neasden - Acton for removal of advertising transfers
16.06.99 - Acton to Hammersmith
19.06.99 - In service in yellow livery minus adverts
19.08.99 - Hammersmith to Acton for painting back into Corporate livery
12.11.99 - Acton to Hammersmith in Corporate livery and in service
While we're here, we might as well have the other AOA (Olympic) livery as well:
Units 5532 + 5555 + 5570
01.10.04 - Hammersmith to Acton
27.11.04 - Acton to Hammersmith in Olympic livery
30.11.04 - In service
04.07.05 - Hammersmith to Acton for painting back into Corporate livery (did not get done)
Because of "7/7" returned to Hammersmith still in Olympic livery
30.08.05 - In service still in Olympic livery
09.01.06 - Hammersmith to Acton for painting back into Corporate livery
10.02.06 - Acton - Hammersmith in Corporate livery without car numbers!
24.02.06 - In service - and with car numbers
The only giveaway now is that the ex-Olympic train has larger than normal car numbers on the sides above the car windows, a feature that some other cars/units have also acquired since (especially the repaired and replacement 7/7 cars).
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Post by Dstock7080 on Oct 16, 2011 20:23:06 GMT
Units 5532 + 5555 + 5570 The only giveaway now is that the ex-Olympic train has larger than normal car numbers on the sides above the car windows, a feature that some other cars/units have also acquired since (especially the repaired and replacement 7/7 cars). A slightly lighter shade of grey roof too. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2011 20:23:13 GMT
Okay, thanks very much for the information. |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Oct 16, 2011 20:28:31 GMT
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Post by t697 on Oct 16, 2011 21:17:43 GMT
At least some of them still have yellow advert frames, or certainly did long after reverting to standard livery.
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Post by jazza on Oct 16, 2011 23:46:01 GMT
Any particular reason 5555 was in both? I'm sure I read on here somewhere that 5555 is only ever used in the middle due to some issue or other. Was that why? Or some other reason?
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Post by causton on Oct 17, 2011 1:16:25 GMT
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Post by norbitonflyer on Oct 17, 2011 6:47:25 GMT
When it was the prototype refurbished unit, 5585 was, I was told, always to run in the middle of a train. Anyone know if this is so and if so, why?
(5585 had been chosen as the test bed as it is a hybrid C69/C77 unit, the original DM having been bombed, and replaced as part of the C77 production run)
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Post by citysig on Oct 17, 2011 9:26:01 GMT
For a line like the Hammersmith and Circle, these trains were a Service Control headache owing to the politics/advertising deals surrounding them. In particular, the Yellow Pages train had to be kept on Circle services. If we had disruption, rather than simply reform the service, this train had to be "found" first and put back onto the Circle - even if it didn't benefit service recovery as a whole.
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Post by jazza on Oct 17, 2011 10:57:54 GMT
For a line like the Hammersmith and Circle, these trains were a Service Control headache owing to the politics/advertising deals surrounding them. In particular, the Yellow Pages train had to be kept on Circle services. If we had disruption, rather than simply reform the service, this train had to be "found" first and put back onto the Circle - even if it didn't benefit service recovery as a whole. So the general public were possibly inconvenienced for the sake of some advertising money/deal? What a way to run a railway or indeed any business. |
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Post by citysig on Oct 17, 2011 16:07:22 GMT
No I wouldn't go that far. Passengers would not have been inconvenienced any further than through whatever had caused the disruption. However from an internal stance, getting the service back fully right time could not simply be done without first taking into account where the "advert" train was. Perhaps I should have stressed it was "an internal inconvenience" |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2011 19:10:19 GMT
For a line like the Hammersmith and Circle, these trains were a Service Control headache owing to the politics/advertising deals surrounding them. In particular, the Yellow Pages train had to be kept on Circle services. If we had disruption, rather than simply reform the service, this train had to be "found" first and put back onto the Circle - even if it didn't benefit service recovery as a whole. Why did the train have to be run on the Circle line? |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Oct 17, 2011 21:15:01 GMT
Because it was yellow.
The units also had to be kept together - no switching over of units if one of them needed fixing.
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Post by citysig on Oct 17, 2011 21:19:46 GMT
Yellow Pages = Yellow. Circle Line = Yellow. Therefore, slinging it on the H&C which was Pink didn't really satisfy the aspirations of the advertising people who were trying to get everyone to think Yellow ;D There is a publication which is of similar name which may be more suited to the H&C colours, but so far I don't think they have approached LU management  |
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Post by suncloud on Oct 18, 2011 19:45:11 GMT
Also I expect there was a perceived, if not actual, higher audience on the circle...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2011 16:19:14 GMT
Was it really 1999 that the Yellow Peril was out? Blimey, doesn't seem that long ago. Did see it a few times, never did manage to get a photo myself of it unfortunately.
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