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Post by metman on Jan 2, 2008 14:28:23 GMT
I was on the Bakerloo the other day and I noticed that the old digital style set numbers have been replaced by LED/LCD? style ones. They look good too! This is probably not new but I hadn't been on the Bakerloo for a while!
Many of the older trains however have the flip/roller style set numbers. Personally I prefer them because I find them easier to see. The Set numbers on the 73ts and 95/96ts are very small and hard to see!
What do others think of them?
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Post by c5 on Jan 2, 2008 14:34:12 GMT
I was on the Bakerloo the other day and I noticed that the old digital style set numbers have been replaced by LED/LCD? style ones. They look good too! This is probably not new but I hadn't been on the Bakerloo for a while! Many of the older trains however have the flip/roller style set numbers. Personally I prefer them because I find them easier to see. The Set numbers on the 73ts and 95/96ts are very small and hard to see! What do others think of them? The 73TS has appalling displays, especially if being watched on the new Internet linked CCTV! You cant beat the old roller numbers, even the refurbed D Stock have kept them!
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Post by metman on Jan 2, 2008 14:41:00 GMT
Yes! I wasn't sure about the D stock ones-looks a little old fashioned with all the destination displays etc. Looking back tho, I'm glad the refurbs have them-the 73ts are dreadful. I don't know why they got rid of them. What is there in its place anyway? Looks like some sort of vent?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2008 15:35:22 GMT
wasn't the ventilation of the 73ts a problem? Didn't they remove the calling on lights to allow more ventilation to the cab, but put them back upon OPO conversion.
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Post by Tomcakes on Jan 2, 2008 16:09:18 GMT
The new ones on the Bakerloo are LEDs by the look of it. I imagine they're much easier to set and change than fiddling with roller blinds.
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Post by metman on Jan 2, 2008 16:19:23 GMT
I'm no expect on the 73 stock but I've had a look at some photos and the calling on light still appears to be present. A spot light used when detraining has also been added. From what I understand the 73ts cabs have air con! I think there is a whistle where the set number was! Tubeprune's website saves the day-again! www.trainweb.org/tubeprune/73%20TS%20em%20steps.jpg
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Post by Tom on Jan 2, 2008 17:36:58 GMT
Whilst the LEDs are a lot easier to see, I liked the original LCD displays on the Bakerloo.
The number plates are probably the best out there though.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2008 20:03:28 GMT
The flip over numbers (as used on the C and D stocks) can be a bit fiddly when you're trying to reform in a hurry, but at least they can't go wrong! I had a refurb D stock recently where the entire CIS panel was dead, so couldn't display a destination, but at least I could show the train number.
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Post by metman on Jan 2, 2008 23:39:52 GMT
The old CO/CP, R, standard and Q stocks had slot-in numbers-that must have been fun!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2008 4:17:35 GMT
the 73s used to be awful for me to look at out of the window at rayners even with glasses but with laser eye surgery i can see better it still takes 1 or 2 seconds to focus and certain numbers can still be bit blurry. most importantly the destination can be seen very easily so i can just clear the appropriate signal!
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Post by superteacher on Jan 4, 2008 19:56:39 GMT
The 92TS LED set number display is big, bright and easy to see. However, this was not an original fitting, as the trains were delivered with LCD set number and destination displays, which became unreadable within a couple of years. Par fot the course with the 92TS I'm afraid, which is a shame, because the trains are great, but could have been so much better if money had been spent on them.
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Post by Harsig on Jan 5, 2008 8:58:31 GMT
the 73s used to be awful for me to look at out of the window at rayners even with glasses but with laser eye surgery i can see better it still takes 1 or 2 seconds to focus and certain numbers can still be bit blurry. most importantly the destination can be seen very easily so i can just clear the appropriate signal! When I worked at Rayners Lane the new train number displays on the refurbished 73 stock were a god send compared to their unilluminated predecessors which were almost impossible to read from the signal cabin during the hours of darkness (which in the winter months includes the evening peak)
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Post by metman on Jan 5, 2008 13:32:33 GMT
I like the A stock set numbers (I would!) because they are easy to read - when the T/op has lined them up properly!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2008 19:25:22 GMT
probably not new but I hadn't been on the Bakerloo for a while! They are pretty new as it goes, and I think they are a big improvement, long overdue.
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