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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2011 18:42:40 GMT
Coming out of Tom747's Met Line Diagram...
In the days of the through met Uxbridge-Barking service, where did H&C trains go to at the East end? And where there still Met trains to Aldgate? - at that time were they rush hours only?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2011 18:49:13 GMT
There was no H&C line back then! It was created out of the Hammersmith - Barking route and given its own colour. About 1990 I think.
I'm not sure if the Met still ran to Aldgate - you'd have to look at a map from before 1990!
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Post by mrfs42 on Sept 11, 2011 18:51:43 GMT
There was no H&C line back then! It was created out of the Hammersmith - Barking route and given its own colour. <panto> Oh Yes there was...... </panto> Met No 1 Section. I've got several WTTs of that era to hand, give me a while and I'll see what I can dig out of the library. |
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Post by Dom K on Sept 11, 2011 18:52:32 GMT
i believe trains did Hammersmith to Whitechapel if Im not mistaken...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2011 18:53:38 GMT
There was no H&C line back then! It was created out of the Hammersmith - Barking route and given its own colour. <panto> Oh Yes there was...... </panto> Met No 1 Section. I've got several WTTs of that era to hand, give me a while and I'll see what I can dig out of the library. They're behind yoooouu! ;D My mistake. |
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Post by mrfs42 on Sept 11, 2011 18:57:27 GMT
i believe trains did Hammersmith to Whitechapel if Im not mistaken... Yes, and the ELL. The H&C existed as company before the line. Trains to Barking started in 1936. |
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Post by Dom K on Sept 11, 2011 19:00:11 GMT
Slightly O/T, but Ive always wondered how the met trains got down to run the ELL! Where was the spur and is it still there now?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2011 19:05:27 GMT
Slightly O/T, but Ive always wondered how the met trains got down to run the ELL! Where was the spur and is it still there now? This I do know! St. Mary's curve. Just west of Whitechapel I think. It was decomissioned during the Overground conversion works. I think the tunnel was also blocked. |
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Post by causton on Sept 11, 2011 19:22:14 GMT
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Post by mikebuzz on Sept 11, 2011 19:28:52 GMT
This I do know! St. Mary's curve. Just west of Whitechapel I think. It was decomissioned during the Overground conversion works. I think the tunnel was also blocked. Another one Crossrail has blocked though I can't see this one being of any use. I'm sure it was instigated primarily for freight purposes. |
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Post by Ben on Sept 11, 2011 19:41:21 GMT
From memory of an artical in Underground News, pretty much everything went everywhere within reason. Uxbridge/Rayners/Stanmore/Watford/Hammersmith - Barking/Whitechapel/ELL were mostly tried at one point or another...
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Post by mrfs42 on Sept 11, 2011 19:55:44 GMT
To answer the OP I think we'll use WTTs 80/81 (No 1) and WTTs 82/83 (No 2) from 5th May 1941. I have other examples on the shelf, but this is the last WTT that carried the Uxb - Bkg throughs.
Watch this space.
EDIT the First.
Hammersmith originators and their terminating point:
LIS Ety have been included but not especially noted.
WK SoT - 9.18½ Aldgate [1] (8.47½ off Hm)
SE 9.26 - 4.1pm Whitechapel (D) [2] (3.28pm off Hm)
SE 4.4pm - 7.22pm Ald (6.52pm off Hm)
SE 7.31½pm - 12.24½ Wcpl (D) (11.50pm off Hm) [CoT]
SO 9.28 - 11.39½ Wcpl (D) (11.6 off Hm)
SO 11.43½ - 2.16½pm Ald (1.46½pm off Hm)
SO 2.28½ - 12.24½ Wcpl (D) (11.50pm off Hm) [CoT]
SuO SoT - 6.15 Ald (5.44 off Hm) [one train]
SuO 6.32½ - 11.56pm Wcpl (D) (11.21pm off Hm) [CoT]
[1] Yes, Aldgate proper.
[2] District - ie not ELL
EDIT the second will be City terminating trains from No 2 Section
WK SoT - 9.42
SE 9.49½ - 1056½
SE 4.7pm - 6.49½pm
SO 9.49½ - 10.54½
SO 11.40 - 1.50pm
SuO Galley not printed for city destinations!
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Post by metman on Sept 11, 2011 20:41:56 GMT
I thought that trains from Hammersmith terminated at Aldagte. As the platforms were long enough between Aldgate East-Barking, the 8 car P stock* trains could take advantage.
It was considered a waste of a 6 car O stock train serving an 8 car long platform!
* Of course within the P stock, trains 19 of them contained O stock cars from the H&City.
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Post by Ben on Sept 11, 2011 20:48:09 GMT
Funny how TfL in this day and age of overcrowding doesn't give a hoot about such things vis. S7 Aldgate East-Barking.
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Post by metman on Sept 11, 2011 21:32:22 GMT
Well they did consider it a couple of years ago, although common sense prevailed as it did in 1940 when they realised that it was a rubbish idea then!  |
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Post by Ben on Sept 11, 2011 21:40:34 GMT
Courageous, perhaps  Haha!
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Haha!
