slugabed
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Post by slugabed on Aug 20, 2011 7:32:25 GMT
Yesterday I went to Chatham Historic Dockyard. In the exhibition of photos of the internal railway,there was a picture of one of their saddle-tank steam locos pulling what looked very much like a pair of 1938 stock trailers. Can anyone shed any more light?
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Post by phillw48 on Aug 20, 2011 7:49:50 GMT
Old tube stock trailers were used by the army at Shoeburyness and other similar establishments.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2011 8:10:56 GMT
They were 1938 Tube Stock motor cars 10177 and 11177 which eventually went to Alderney. Now long scrapped and replaced there by a pair of 1959 Stock DMs in heritage livery (1044-1045).
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Post by Ben on Aug 20, 2011 9:10:30 GMT
Is it that long ago? A decade I guess, time flies... The pictures in Underground news of one of the cars laying on it side in a scrap yard were gut wrenching. They can't all be kept, but its still sad to see something as iconic destroyed.
Unit 10177 was, incidentally, the only unit of the 1938ts to have worked on all tube lines during its life. Indeed this is possibly a feat unique to it from all tube stock past and present.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2011 12:17:13 GMT
Some cars of Pre-1938 Tube Stock operated on all 'tube' lines - i.e. Bakerloo, Central, Northern, Piccadilly and Northern City. A small handful of the 1931 batch also operated on the District's west-end shuttles until the Picc was extended westwards, but these weren't in those above. An even smaller handful of Pre-1938s also worked on the Stanmore - Wembley Park shuttles from March 1939 until the Bakerloo reached Stanmore later in the year. For this service they were regarded as "Met" stock in the official records. I seem to remember posting something about this a long time ago. For the purist, when the Victoria Line was being built, initially with a section of experimental tunnel north of Finsbury Park, Northern City Pre-1938 test trains worked in the new tunnels, so you "could say" (rather tongue in cheek ;D) it operated on the Victoria Line, but not in service of course - all rather tenuous!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2011 21:12:11 GMT
The preserved line at Chatham Dockyard was the first incarnation of the North Downs Steam Railway, which had set out to open part of the former LCDR Gravesend (West Street) branch as a preserved line. They later established on a 'green field' site in Dartford (I was briefly a volunteer there), and eventually merged with and moved to the Spa Valley Railway at Tunbridge Wells. The 1938 stock didn't get as far as Dartford, but Met Railway carriages (that are now at Tunbridge Wells) were operated at Dartford. The Kent Rail website has more - www.kentrail.org.uk/North%20Downs%20Railway.htm
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slugabed
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Post by slugabed on Aug 21, 2011 8:15:27 GMT
Puddytat....Wasn't the North Downs Steam Railway once (when dinosaurs ruled the earth) based in one of the chalk quarries near Betchworth? Or am I mixing things up again?
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Post by bassmike on Aug 21, 2011 12:51:56 GMT
no the betchworth quarries was narrow gauge and is now the Amberley museum site
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Post by slugabed on Aug 21, 2011 14:48:02 GMT
Ah yes.I remember now,it was narrow-gauge,but I never visited either. The Spa Valley Railway,current home of the NDSR is well worth a visit.
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