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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2011 1:01:17 GMT
Something I haven't run across yet in my reading about the history of the Underground and London Transport is any mention of the first few manufacturers of the enameled signs that LT (and LU) used for their station signage. Has anyone studied this at all? I'd be curious to know if any of the companies that first made enamel signs for the Underground are still in business today.
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Post by castlebar on Jul 22, 2011 6:42:26 GMT
Hi, I don't know if there is any connection, or if this will help but there is a very good website devoted to L.T. Bus stop enamels. The same manufacturers may have been used. If you google "London Transport E Plates", you might get some info, and possibly some contacts via Alan Gryfe's site, as a lot of research has been and is still being done on bus stop enamel numbers, stop flags etc.
Hope this helps
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Post by mrfs42 on Jul 22, 2011 9:34:09 GMT
There is a book around on LT Bullseyes - I've just had a peer around for my copy, but it isn't obvious.
There's a useful bit on manufacturers there.
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Post by neilw on Jul 22, 2011 11:48:09 GMT
at one time ISTR that the LT museum offered signs made by the original supplier, so they might know..........
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Post by edwardfox on Jul 22, 2011 11:52:22 GMT
Although a delight to behold and basically very useful, the site www.eplates.info/ does contain the occasional typo and many instances of outdated route information.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2011 13:26:27 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2011 16:29:16 GMT
we still get enamel plates made for signals these are produced from a company on the isle of wright
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Post by rogere on Jul 26, 2011 12:47:56 GMT
We have recently had a couple of vitreous enamelled signs produced by a company called Trico ( www.trico-ve.co.uk) that has been used by London Transport. <edit> just remembered that the company in the Isle of Wight mentioned above is A J Wells ( www.ajwells.com). They also have produced stuff or LT and TfL etc.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2011 21:30:22 GMT
Several companies were involved - in early days (pre-WW1) I've seen signs made by both the 'Patent Enamel Co' (Birmingham & London) as well as the old 'Imperial Enamel' of Birmingham. For years Bruton's (London) did well out of LT. Garnier's, based at Willesden, merged with Burnham's (Catford) in the mid-1990s, and latterly Burnham's (who even made some of RATP's signs) were taken over by Stocks Signs who still supply. Trico make signs for LU as well, and yes, A J Wells do. Very occasionally some signs made in Spain have turned up - and I seem to recall that the infamous 'fade to pink' red roundel rings that showed up on the Met and Central in the mid-1990s were German made, but memory may be playing tricks with me!
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Post by mrfs42 on Jul 26, 2011 21:44:39 GMT
Yes, I think they were German, I'll have a gander at my 'Barbican' sign next time I'm over in the 'country library'.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2011 22:22:13 GMT
*cough* West Harrow *cough*
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2011 15:18:07 GMT
<edit> just remembered that the company in the Isle of Wight mentioned above is A J Wells ( www.ajwells.com). They also have produced stuff or LT and TfL etc. They have recently (2-3 years ago) provided stopping markers for in the 4ft and trackside for the Victoria Line.
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Post by Tom on Aug 8, 2011 19:59:40 GMT
we still get enamel plates made for signals these are produced from a company on the isle of wright We ordered a lot of enamel stuff from A.J. Wells. For some reason they ceased producing the signs in New Johnston, I was preparing to return some on the grounds that they weren't as per the ordering drawing by using a different font! I've also got some from the early 2000s produced by English Enamels who were based in Birmingham.
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