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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2011 19:28:42 GMT
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Post by uzairjubilee on Jul 12, 2011 19:46:35 GMT
I think the District will use both platforms 3 and 4. I'm going to guess that trains will predominantly use platform 3, but of course the OLY-HSK shuttle will run, so platform 4 will also be used.
It also looks like Circle line trains will reverse from platform 2 at HSK.
Edit: Circle not running according to TfL.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2011 20:06:43 GMT
I think the District will use both platforms 3 and 4. I'm going to guess that trains will predominantly use platform 3, but of course the OLY-HSK shuttle will run, so platform 4 will also be used. It also looks like Circle line trains will reverse from platform 2 at HSK. Edit: Circle not running according to TfL. Circle reversing on the OR - pfm2 |
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Post by Phil on Jul 12, 2011 21:39:15 GMT
Hmmm.......that covers the Saturday of the summer meet. Getting from Paddington to ECT will be a real pain - - not made easier by the helpful (!!!) advice on the TfL website that customers from Padd can use the Bakerloo as the alternative route.
Eerrr......................how??
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2011 21:45:56 GMT
District to Embankment then Bakerloo to Paddington - ouch!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2011 21:49:38 GMT
As someone said Circle reversing via platform 2 at High Street Ken.
Also no service up to High Street on any of the weekends
And there's going to be a large number of engineers trains going in and out!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2011 22:03:50 GMT
Hmmm.......that covers the Saturday of the summer meet. Getting from Paddington to ECT will be a real pain - - not made easier by the helpful (!!!) advice on the TfL website that customers from Padd can use the Bakerloo as the alternative route. Eerrr......................how?? It's a pretty thin service on the District all round that weekend! Suspended Embankment - Aldgate E and as mentioned further up Earls Ct - Edgware Rd Richmond branch has a 4tph service ex Embankment |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2011 22:13:11 GMT
Kew Bridge might offer an easier walk to the pub than Gunnersbury.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jul 16, 2011 13:23:57 GMT
Hmmm.......that covers the Saturday of the summer meet. Getting from Paddington to ECT will be a real pain - - not made easier by the helpful (!!!) advice on the TfL website that customers from Padd can use the Bakerloo as the alternative route. Eerrr......................how?? It's a pretty thin service on the District all round that weekend! Suspended Embankment - Aldgate E and as mentioned further up Earls Ct - Edgware Rd Richmond branch has a 4tph service ex Embankment No service between Earl’s Court and Edgware Road, is all i can see for 20 August. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2011 13:56:58 GMT
Hmmm.......that covers the Saturday of the summer meet. Getting from Paddington to ECT will be a real pain - - not made easier by the helpful (!!!) advice on the TfL website that customers from Padd can use the Bakerloo as the alternative route. Eerrr......................how?? Simple, take a 27 bus from Paddington to High Street Kensington station (Turnham Green, Sutton Lane North will probably be the destination). Change there for the District line or a 328 towards Limerston Street. Note that you will need to cross the road to reach Earls Court station if you use the 328. Does anyone know why they are Monday and Tuesday closures, as opposed to Saturday and Sunday closures? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2011 15:13:07 GMT
It's a pretty thin service on the District all round that weekend! Suspended Embankment - Aldgate E and as mentioned further up Earls Ct - Edgware Rd Richmond branch has a 4tph service ex Embankment No service between Earl’s Court and Edgware Road, is all i can see for 20 August. I was looking at the TTN, however it appears to be quite clearly stated in the public domain ... www.tfl.gov.uk/livetravelnews/planned-works/calendar/default.aspx |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2011 15:25:15 GMT
Hmmm.......that covers the Saturday of the summer meet. Getting from Paddington to ECT will be a real pain - - not made easier by the helpful (!!!) advice on the TfL website that customers from Padd can use the Bakerloo as the alternative route. Eerrr......................how?? Simple, take a 27 bus from Paddington to High Street Kensington station (Turnham Green, Sutton Lane North will probably be the destination). Change there for the District line or a 328 towards Limerston Street. Note that you will need to cross the road to reach Earls Court station if you use the 328. Does anyone know why they are Monday and Tuesday closures, as opposed to Saturday and Sunday closures? It's not a Monday and Tuesday stand alone closure It's part of a 4 and a bit week closure from COT on Fri 22nd July until SOT on Weds 24th Aug The project required the final Monday and Tuesday in order to complete it's works |
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Post by citysig on Jul 16, 2011 17:21:41 GMT
The project required the final Monday and Tuesday in order to complete it's works Works which are now to be much less than planned - hence the additional closures later in the year for the same bit of railway. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2011 20:21:07 GMT
Glad they're moving to this block closure concept. Gets the job done faster more easily, saving money. Grin and bear it for a month and then reap the benefits.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2011 20:52:17 GMT
.... assuming that there won't be loads of follow-on closures for works that were not carried out during the 'block' closure.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2011 18:00:00 GMT
As expected, more or less chaos at High Street to-day. Trains from Earl's Court and Victoria arrived together so in effect no access to Platform 3. The detraining passengers were being advised "for Edgware Road turn left out of the station and take a No. 27 bus" which instruction followed literally would take them to Hammersmith - in fairness, of course, they could get a train to Edgware Road from there. Question - are they running extra buses on route 27 during the closure?And if they went that way at least they would've avoided the one-way working in Kensington Church Street due to cunningly timed road works. Meanwhile, back on Platform 3, trains depart with no indication of final destination - hey, we can all get out at Earl's Court and get back on again if it turns out it is going to Wimbledon after all. From the sound of the drivers when they eventually did announce our destination I gathered that the emergency timetable has cut back meal breaks, overtime or both  |
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Post by Hassaan on Jul 25, 2011 18:17:24 GMT
Question - are they running extra buses on route 27 during the closure? The operator, London United, do have quite a few spare buses knocking about, so could be possible. HoweverLast February the same London United pinched 3 56-reg buses (Scania OmniCity's) from Hounslow garage for my local route 120 to use on the 27, when they had spare buses that they could use! This meant that my route had to use more clapped out ALX400s (V-reg), and also affected Route H32, which now has a number of those every day despite having been fully converted to OmniCity operation since 2009! |
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Post by Hassaan on Jul 25, 2011 18:21:04 GMT
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Post by Chris M on Jul 25, 2011 18:41:40 GMT
Question - are they running extra buses on route 27 during the closure? The operator, London United, do have quite a few spare buses knocking about, so could be possible. HoweverLast February the same London United pinched 3 56-reg buses (Scania OmniCity's) from Hounslow garage for my local route 120 to use on the 27, when they had spare buses that they could use! This meant that my route had to use more clapped out ALX400s (V-reg), and also affected Route H32, which now has a number of those every day despite having been fully converted to OmniCity operation since 2009! Off-topic for this forum, but I lead to believe from discussions elsewhere that TfL don't really care too much if the right buses are used on a route. As long as it has the right number of decks, they "don't go looking for problems" like that. |
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Post by Hassaan on Jul 25, 2011 18:47:39 GMT
The operator, London United, do have quite a few spare buses knocking about, so could be possible. HoweverLast February the same London United pinched 3 56-reg buses (Scania OmniCity's) from Hounslow garage for my local route 120 to use on the 27, when they had spare buses that they could use! This meant that my route had to use more clapped out ALX400s (V-reg), and also affected Route H32, which now has a number of those every day despite having been fully converted to OmniCity operation since 2009! Off-topic for this forum, but I lead to believe from discussions elsewhere that TfL don't really care too much if the right buses are used on a route. As long as it has the right number of decks, they "don't go looking for problems" like that. EDIT: I have realised those buses have been decommissioned. Really need to stop being off-topic.  |
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Post by citysig on Jul 25, 2011 21:05:26 GMT
From the sound of the drivers when they eventually did announce our destination I gathered that the emergency timetable has cut back meal breaks, overtime or both It is not an emergency timetable - it has been in planning for months. And all of the set agreed parameters concerning mealbreaks and shift times for drivers are followed correctly. Cut back on overtime  Unlike some national rail operators, we do not function on overtime. It is granted should a driver end up getting off of their train late due to disruption. Therefore if this timetable has cut overtime then one can only draw the assumption that it means drivers are getting off on time. |
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Post by citysig on Jul 25, 2011 21:08:21 GMT
Classic Standard. The "biggest yet closure." Surely mileage and inconvenience-wise, the shutdown of the Hammersmith branch was worse. This closure is short in comparison, and all stations have at least one easy alternative. Plus we're doing what people have campaigned for, and are doing all the work in one hit. Usual standard of journalism for them. Trying to alarm people into thinking its a bad thing. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2011 22:41:46 GMT
If all the work is being done in one hit, does this mean that there won't be any further closures once this block closure has finished?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2011 22:42:52 GMT
Hopefully not
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jul 25, 2011 23:10:22 GMT
Regretfully not!
Still closures for:
3/4 September
24/25 September
1/2 October
8/9 October
15/16 October, at least !
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jul 25, 2011 23:44:23 GMT
Question - are they running extra buses on route 27 during the closure? Answer: 27 - Temporary Monday to Friday timetable introduced with additional peak hour journeys between Turnham Green/Stamford Brook and Baker Street during Railway works. |
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Post by citysig on Jul 26, 2011 9:04:51 GMT
The later closures will occur mostly alongside signalling work at Edgware Road - a separate project to the current blockade closure.
To get all the work done, would have required a longer block closure, and even then it simply isn't always possible to get everything done whilst making the most of the closure. There will always be the few works which require "settling in" before they can be added to. Under a block closure, it could have meant the railway being shut but no actual work being done for days on end. If news of that got out, then we'd be slated again.
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Post by jimini on Jul 26, 2011 9:12:19 GMT
Classic Standard. The "biggest yet closure." Surely mileage and inconvenience-wise, the shutdown of the Hammersmith branch was worse. This closure is short in comparison, and all stations have at least one easy alternative. Plus we're doing what people have campaigned for, and are doing all the work in one hit. Usual standard of journalism for them. Trying to alarm people into thinking its a bad thing. Unfortunately this closure's on their doorstep (they're based in Derry Street off High Street Ken). It'll be on their radar for the duration, so expect more first class journalism from them on the topic. Nice of TfL to lay on the tea room at the north end of platform 2 by the way. Only problem is I've not seen a train hang about long enough to give the t/op enough time to furnish themselves with a brew! |
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Post by cso on Jul 26, 2011 9:52:04 GMT
Seems like TFL are damned if they do and damned if they don't...
To show the standard of ES reporting the caption under the image says:
Strike: Parts of the circle line shut from tomorrow in the biggest-yet block closure, not reopening until Wednesday August 24.
I didn't realise this was a strike causing this...
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Post by Hassaan on Jul 26, 2011 10:47:35 GMT
Also, a news report was shown today on BBC London News Here is what the BBC said yesterday: www.bbc.co.uk/i/b012sm05/?t=9m47sPay particular attention to the version of the Tube map they use in the news report.  Note: Only available until 6:59pm today on iPlayer. |
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Unlike some national rail operators, we do not function on overtime. It is granted should a driver end up getting off of their train late due to disruption. Therefore if this timetable has cut overtime then one can only draw the assumption that it means drivers are getting off on time.
