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Post by kabsonline on Jun 26, 2011 17:25:41 GMT
Heres a question I don't think has ever been asked ;D When the Met went past Amersham to places such as Aylesbury (especially in the 1950s), did these stations ever get LU roundels?  |
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Post by bassmike on Jun 26, 2011 17:29:11 GMT
yes but mostly printed paper ones
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Post by kabsonline on Jun 26, 2011 17:31:15 GMT
are these still around anywhere?
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Post by superteacher on Jun 26, 2011 18:07:18 GMT
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Post by metrailway on Jun 26, 2011 18:52:05 GMT
Aylesbury probably didn't get them as it was a Joint station managed by the BR Eastern (After 1958 BR Midland) and BR Western Regions after nationalisation.
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Post by thc on Jun 26, 2011 20:46:27 GMT
See my avatar for an example.
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Post by metrailway on Jun 27, 2011 9:54:36 GMT
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Post by 21146 on Jun 27, 2011 10:41:40 GMT
The book "London Underground Steam" (Ian Allan, 2011) shows Wendover with a square LT roundel sign covered with white paper, upon which sits a printed LMR maroon totem; it also shows Aylesbury with full LMR maroon signage including enamel totems and running-in boards.
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Post by slugabed on Jun 27, 2011 10:45:13 GMT
It seems that LT always takes care of its station buildings than BR....look how well-kept the stations on the High Barnet branch and the Hainault loop are compared to similar stations that remained on the National network....the fact that the stations beyond Amersham were partially demolished after transfer only serves to underline the point.
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Post by metrailway on Jun 27, 2011 12:01:01 GMT
It seems that LT always takes care of its station buildings than BR....look how well-kept the stations on the High Barnet branch and the Hainault loop are compared to similar stations that remained on the National network....the fact that the stations beyond Amersham were partially demolished after transfer only serves to underline the point. LT always cared about its heritage. BR felt that the railways had to be completely modernised, including station buildings, to lower costs. In the late 80s, the canopies on the SB platforms at Stoke Mandeville, Wendover, and Great Missenden, were shortened in the name of 'modernisation'. Amersham retains the original length. Back on topic, I think Missenden, Wendover, Mandeville all got their roundels during/after the war. Before the war, I think the stations were managed by the LNER. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2011 16:40:42 GMT
LT always cared about its heritage. BR felt that the railways had to be completely modernised, including station buildings, to lower costs. CLASP *shudders* |
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Post by Ben on Jun 27, 2011 16:59:46 GMT
All three still do have some buildings left though, don't they? Its not like they've become merely platforms |
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Post by metrailway on Jun 27, 2011 17:34:19 GMT
All three still do have some buildings left though, don't they? Its not like they've become merely platforms Yes they do. The SB (up) platforms retain all their buildings bar 1/6th of the canopies, which were removed in the late 80s. Until recently, the doors to the platform from the booking hall were original Met ones! The NB (down) platforms have no platform buildings left with a bus shelter to substitute the waiting rooms. Of course, Aylesbury retains all it buildings barring the GWR cafe between the current platform 3 and former bay platform, which was also removed in the late 80s. BTW Quainton Road also retains its original buildings and it's LNER paint scheme  |
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Post by ruislip on Jun 27, 2011 17:51:58 GMT
Back on topic, I think Missenden, Wendover, Mandeville all got their roundels during/after the war. Before the war, I think the stations were managed by the LNER. Wasn't there still a Joint Committee(LT/GCR/LNER) to run these stations even after the formation of London Transport in 1933? |
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Post by metman on Jun 27, 2011 18:05:30 GMT
Yes I think so, but it ceased in 1947 with Nationalisation.
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jun 27, 2011 18:46:32 GMT
Wasn't there still a Joint Committee(LT/GCR/LNER) to run these stations even after the formation of London Transport in 1933? The GCR ceased to exist at the end of 1922, being one of the costituents of the newly-formed LNER. |
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Post by metrailway on Jun 27, 2011 18:51:50 GMT
Back on topic, I think Missenden, Wendover, Mandeville all got their roundels during/after the war. Before the war, I think the stations were managed by the LNER. Wasn't there still a Joint Committee(LT/GCR/LNER) to run these stations even after the formation of London Transport in 1933? Yes there was the Met&GC joint commitee (formed in 1904?). The name stayed until nationalisation despite the GCR grouped into the LNER and the Met into the LTPB. I believe the original agreement was that the management of the line alternated between the two companies every x years. |
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Post by phillw48 on Jun 27, 2011 18:54:52 GMT
The other company was the GWR. So it should be LT/GWR/LNER.
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Post by metrailway on Jun 27, 2011 19:10:26 GMT
The other company was the GWR. So it should be LT/GWR/LNER. Only at Aylesbury, which was GW&GC and Met&GC, thus a joint line owned by joint lines! Aylesbury station even had it's own uniforms! The rest of the line was Met/GC. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2011 19:49:23 GMT
I think, strictly, that the Watford branch was a separate (Met /LNER) joint undertaking.
One of the the things the BTC did in 1948 was sort out lines between the Railway (BR) and London Transport Executives: as part of this the joint line as far as Aylesbury South Jn (from Harrow South Jn, including branches) became LT (on 25 June 1950 according to Barker & Robbins).
Which raises the question - did 'joint' stations have roundels before then? If not, what did they have?
(edited to correct freudian confusion between book and ice cream!)
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Post by rogere on Jun 28, 2011 13:20:06 GMT
Just before the Great Missenden Signalbox was boarded-up, I managed to get a good look round it, at the invitation of the guy who, nominally, operated it.
It still had Metropolitan/Great Central on the signal layout diagram above the levers, and had a London Transport rule book in one of the shelves - that appeared to be the only documents I noticed other than a few copies of Mayfair!
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