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Post by Oracle on Jun 22, 2011 17:27:30 GMT
Is that Picc Circus Bakerloo NB?
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Post by DWS on Jun 22, 2011 17:57:52 GMT
Yes,
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2011 18:45:31 GMT
I see the train has the number 96. Is it "faked", or did/does the Bakerloo signal system support 8 and 9?
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Post by tubeprune on Jun 22, 2011 18:51:28 GMT
This photo was taken in the 1950s. In those days, train numbers were not restricted by programme machines as they are today.
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Post by Oracle on Jun 22, 2011 19:48:19 GMT
The album dates to 1978 it seems.
The train descriiber I assume had 'WATFORD LMR' ..I am pretty certain that at least one had 'WATFORD LMS' on it!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2011 20:49:03 GMT
The pic comes from the half title page of the book about the stock depicted!
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Post by slugabed on Jun 22, 2011 20:51:36 GMT
Vic Goddard and the Subway Sect....worth a few bob if you've got a mint copy...there's a single with a similar cover,also quite valuable. I saw one once in a secondhand record shop,thought I'd buy it,saw the price,winced and put it back,gingerly.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2011 6:05:11 GMT
Subway Sect was one of the first punk bands, formed in '76, played loads of gigs and toured a lot but they only released two singles, that’s the cover of their debut single “Nobody’s scared b/w Don’t split it” from March ‘78.
Manager Bernie Rhodes fired the entire band apart from the singer Vic Goddard in the summer while they were in they studio recording the album . The album was shelved and the only thing to come out of the sessions was the second single, "Ambition" in October '78.
They reformed twice as Vic Goddard and the Subway Sect.
I'm now going to Pogo quietly in the corner.....
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Post by edwardfox on Jun 23, 2011 6:17:22 GMT
Am I missing something or does the modern music industry operate in a strange way? Three or four guys get together and form a band - band gets a few gig - band hires a manager - some way down the line, the manager "fires" band members. How does that work?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2011 7:12:37 GMT
1978. Modern music?!?!?! Thank you for making me feel young again!
The story is that Goddard though that "he needed to reshape Sect to reflect his new ideas in writing". Later versions of the band tried for a Northern soul feel and by the end he was crooning jazz!
Rhodes was paying the band £15 each a week, after the cull Goddard got £50 a week.
The guitar and bass players were there from the start but they were on their third drummer by the end.
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Post by SE13 on Jun 23, 2011 11:19:18 GMT
Superb picture! The adverts, describers, everything! That rolls back the years!
Strange how you never really notice these things vanishing until a picture like that pops up.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2011 14:59:16 GMT
Isn't that advert on the wall marvellous? "Give CAPSTAN this Christmas".
If I recall from the smoking club on the upper deck of the 275 when I was at school, the packet of Capstan we sampled reduced even the hardcore smokers amongst us to spluttering wrecks within seconds.
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Post by SE13 on Jun 24, 2011 6:47:23 GMT
Yes, the memories. Those adverts for (Players I think) where the bloke in the office was so "cool" because he was smoking a certain brand, and the blonde woman was swooning! Those machines in stations where you could buy packs of 5 or a Fruit & Nut bar!
Like I said, these things change and you never notice until a gem like this comes up, and all the "way we were" comes flooding back.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2011 16:32:15 GMT
Trains became numbered 51-97 from WTT No.23 of 1/10/45.
They were changed from 111-167 from WTT No.58 of 26/1/70 (excluding '8' and '9').
When the 1972 Stock was being introduced on the Bakerloo Line (proper!), the four nominated trains were numbered 317, 320, 321 and 322 so they stood out from the normal trains and reversed south to north in the peaks via London Road depot(WTT No.75 from 4/4/77). However, it wasn't uncommon for them to be substituted by 1938 Stock, which used the 3xx set numbers and ran in those paths. Normal 1xx numbers for 1972 Stock from WTT No.76 from 8/8/77 after all crews trained on them.
Revised to be 121-174 from WTT No.1 of 1/5/79.
The present numbering (2xx) was introduced with WTT No.3 of 6/12/82.
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Post by mrfs42 on Jun 24, 2011 16:37:11 GMT
I see the train has the number 96. Is it "faked", or did/does the Bakerloo signal system support 8 and 9? Yes it did - AI has the timetable where the numbers changed for sale on eBay on behalf of the LTM at the moment: Link.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2011 12:02:22 GMT
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Post by 21146 on Jul 8, 2011 16:46:55 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2011 19:33:42 GMT
I remember this postcard appearing in the (early?) 1960s. The motorman I am 99% sure was Fred Ridout who was based at Neasden (Bakerloo) a more nicer and more knowledgeable man you couldn't wish to meet, and always turned out in full uniform. Even into the 1980s we often talked about things past, including Standard Stock on the Bakerloo, when the stock was increased from 6- to 7-cars .... wonderful times.
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Post by roythebus on Jul 15, 2011 7:33:13 GMT
Somewhere I've got a record poster taken at Royal Oak circa 1968. I kept the poster for the railway interest. I can't remember who the band was.
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