kabsonline
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Post by kabsonline on Jun 17, 2011 12:12:25 GMT
When watching the video 125 drivers eye view of the met I noticed one A Stock train formed of four refurbished units and four unrefurbished units. Was this normal practice during the time the stock was being refurbished or am I imagining things? Thanks  |
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North End
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Post by North End on Jun 17, 2011 12:23:03 GMT
When watching the video 125 drivers eye view of the met I noticed one A Stock train formed of four refurbished units and four unrefurbished units. Was this normal practice during the time the stock was being refurbished or am I imagining things? Thanks No as I believe refurbished and unrefurbished trains were unable to work together in passenger service. What you would have seen would have been one of the painted but unrefurbished units. 7 units were externally painted in the late 1980s (?), partly as a testbed for livery variations, but also sponsored by the LDDC to improve the appearance of the East London Line. These painted units were frequently seen on the Metropolitan Line, especially after the East London Line closed for the Thames Tunnel works. There was also 1x prototype refurbished unit which always worked with an unrefurbished unit, but I think this disappeared fairly quickly once the production refurbishment started. |
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Post by astock5000 on Jun 17, 2011 13:05:37 GMT
What you would have seen would have been one of the painted but unrefurbished units. 7 units were externally painted in the late 1980s (?), partly as a testbed for livery variations, but also sponsored by the LDDC to improve the appearance of the East London Line. These painted units were frequently seen on the Metropolitan Line, especially after the East London Line closed for the Thames Tunnel works. Five of those units (5058, 5062, 5064, 5066 and 5232) were painted in the white with blue doors livery. 5056 was painted in the blue / white experimental livery (two cars of the prototype refurb unit, 5132-6132, were also in that livery, but didn't run in service before the unit was repainted into a version of what is now the corporate livery). The only unrefurbished unit in a livery similar to the current one was 5122. |
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metman
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Post by metman on Jun 17, 2011 19:19:49 GMT
5132 did run with unpainted trains prior to refurbishment. I wonder if anyone has the date which 5132 went for refurb?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2011 11:03:32 GMT
I do, but you will have to wait until I get home later this coming week. Watch this space. Perhaps PM me to remind me please?
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Post by Ben on Jun 18, 2011 11:09:37 GMT
5132; To have the original stuff done, 1989 to Met Cam. The whole unit then went to Met Cam in Feb 1990. Returned to Neasden in June 1990, back in service August 8th 1990.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2011 23:23:38 GMT
Just to add a little more -
5132-6132 to Metro-Cammell 8/6/89 for trial refurb. The two cars were finished inside differently and never ran in service in that form because they weren't up to passenger carrying standards. It was to see "what could be done". 5132 and 6132 were also painted blue above the waist, white below. The other two cars remained in unpainted aluminium.
Whole 4-car unit to Metro-Cammell between 13/2/90 and 16/2/90 by road for prototype refurbishment.
Returned between 1/6/90 and 3/6/90 in 'corporate' livery and entered service 8/8/90.
It ran with ELL (corporate-liveried) painted unit 5122 on occasions to give a complete 8-car in the same livery (apart from the roof colours - 5132 unit grey, 5122 unit white).
5132 went for refurbishment 'proper' as part of Train 2 (with unit 5169) on 12/10/93. It arrived at Derby on 16/10/93 because being the first refurb to go by rail, it was used on route for 'gauging'. Returned 25/8/94 and in service 21/11/94.
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Post by metman on Jun 25, 2011 8:09:40 GMT
Whilst on the subject, when the A stock was converted to OPO I seem to remember that the UNDM cars did not get provided with new high intensity headlights, can anyone confrim? They also retained the old side mounted windscreen wiper did they not?
Were the middle cars then altered on refurb to a single pantograph wiper and given a pair of HI headlights?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2011 8:40:08 GMT
Correct.
The "middle" driving motors (i.e. white ends, blue 'skirt') only got high intensity headlights on refurb, and one replacement windscreen wiper.
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