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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2011 18:12:03 GMT
I'm not sure how long it has been open for, but i saw today that platform 1 at Whitechapel (eastbound) has been reopened with the two District Line trains i saw today both using it, the track has been replaced too.
Before the works however through trains used platform 2, with platform 1 being by terminating Hammersmith and City line trains to reverse.
The blue boards have also been taken away from platform 4, however all the trains i saw used platform 3, as usual.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jun 13, 2011 21:24:41 GMT
Platform1 was recommissioned for use from the first eastbound train today. Platform2 is now closed permanently.
Previously, platforms 1&2 could be used for both eastbound trains and trains reversing EB>WB.
Platfom4 still has a while yet to be recommissioned in it's new location, when it is platform3 will be permanently closed.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2011 21:43:31 GMT
Does anyone know if all of the deltas will be replaced? I'm curious to know if Whitechapel will still have slugs for all of its trainstops or if the relocking will include draw-ups and modern timers.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2011 21:43:50 GMT
Platform1 was recommissioned for use from the first eastbound train today. Platform2 is now closed permanently. Previously, platforms 1&2 could be used for both eastbound trains and trains reversing EB>WB. Platfom4 still has a while yet to be recommissioned in it's new location, when it is platform3 will be permanently closed. ok thanks for that what will happen to platforms 2 and 3 ? |
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Post by edwardfox on Jun 13, 2011 21:51:01 GMT
Perhaps the closed platforms 2 and 3 might be bought back into use as a new terminal bay for peak hour Metropolitan Line extensions via Aldgate East and Liverpool Street.
"This is a Metropolitan Line train ... to Whitechapel"
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jun 13, 2011 22:10:24 GMT
Unfortunately not! The tracks are to be lifted and the space filled-in to create a very wide platform between 1 & (currently) 4.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2011 22:18:41 GMT
.... and escalators down to Crossrail, in the wide platform?
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Post by sigdes on Jun 14, 2011 9:38:30 GMT
Does anyone know if all of the deltas will be replaced? I'm curious to know if Whitechapel will still have slugs for all of its trainstops or if the relocking will include draw-ups and modern timers. All the deltas have been replaced on the approach to Whitechapel (EB and WB) with Position Detectors while the delta in Platform 1 has been removed. The Draw Up signal, EN360, has a two shot timing section arrangement with modern timers therefore negating the need for slugged trainstop hoses. The Draw Up should normally be clear on the approach if the train is at or below line speed. |
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Post by flippyff on Jun 14, 2011 21:58:18 GMT
Unfortunately not! The tracks are to be lifted and the space filled-in to create a very wide platform between 1 & (currently) 4. Are there any plans for the platforms to be renumbered? |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jun 15, 2011 6:50:27 GMT
Unfortunately not! The tracks are to be lifted and the space filled-in to create a very wide platform between 1 & (currently) 4. Are there any plans for the platforms to be renumbered? Or maybe the Crossrail platforms will be numbered 2 and 3 |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2011 1:48:50 GMT
Are there any plans for the platforms to be renumbered? Or maybe the Crossrail platforms will be numbered 2 and 3 That's a good point, especially since they will be somewhat parallel to the Whitechapel and Bow formation through the area. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2011 15:10:00 GMT
They wasnt delta's in the first place they was a track circuit within a 10/10 but showed up as deltas on diagrams etc. They was replaced in october / november with P.D's, eventually all deltas will be replaced with P.D's so they can run the new S stock trains.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jul 16, 2011 13:07:50 GMT
Platform4 to be recommissioned from 5 September.
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Post by dmncf on Jul 16, 2011 19:11:59 GMT
Unfortunately not! The tracks are to be lifted and the space filled-in to create a very wide platform between 1 & (currently) 4. Platform 2 had no track when I travelled through yesterday evening (Friday 15/07/11). I travelled westbound from West Ham, where the platform indicators were advising passengers to change at Aldgate East for the Hammersmith & City line. I guess that advice may not be so valid now. |
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Post by Colin on Jul 17, 2011 0:57:13 GMT
That advice is still quite valid - the SSR mantra is to always travel as far as you can on the first available train, and only once you've got as far as that train will take you on your route, should you change trains [if required of course!!].
I suppose in the specific example you mention, you ain't gonna miss a train as it will have to pass through West Ham anyway - but - what if there was a problem with the train service, or like this weekend, there is no service between Barking & Kings Cross? Drivers will probably only do a PA on the approach to Aldgate East; at least then you can stay on the train and change at Tower Hill for the Circle line. If you wait at West Ham and miss a station announcement (or worse still, no announcement is made at all), how long will you wait and how many Districts will you not board? By using the SSR mantra - always board the first available train - your potential delay will always be minimised!!
As for the track being lifted in the platform 2 area at Whitechapel, that was done some weeks ago now!!
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Post by Dstock7080 on Aug 25, 2011 15:51:08 GMT
Are there any plans for the platforms to be renumbered? WB platform 4 will be renumbered pfm2 when it reopens on 5 September. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2011 22:27:12 GMT
While travelling through Whitechapel tonight I see the new westbound platform is now in operation, and once the old middle platforms are all filled in it will be a very wide platform  |
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Post by uzairjubilee on Sept 7, 2011 22:39:17 GMT
Are they actually filled in!?
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Post by Ben on Sept 7, 2011 22:49:20 GMT
Massively wide! Are passenger loadings considered to become that high to make this necessary? Wider than Wite City with the middle filled in...
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Post by Colin on Sept 8, 2011 2:11:27 GMT
Are they actually filled in!? No - it's a bit more than an overnight job!! Massively wide! Are passenger loadings considered to become that high to make this necessary? Wider than Wite City with the middle filled in... Remember this is being done to accommodate access to Crossrail - passenger numbers are not the reason for the removal of what was an extremely flexible layout. |
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Post by Tom on Sept 13, 2011 18:51:23 GMT
Massively wide! Are passenger loadings considered to become that high to make this necessary? Wider than Wite City with the middle filled in... As it happens, the original design for Whitechapel when the Crossrail plans were drawn up some twelve or so years ago did feature a middle road similar to White City... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2011 19:30:44 GMT
A three-escalator bank leading down to Crossrail, from the middle of the now-wide island platform - ?
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