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Post by trivran on Jul 23, 2011 12:01:40 GMT
I'm sure that the bays been de-comissioned. Probably wrong though.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2011 12:03:06 GMT
Has the possibility been raised of reversing the service in platform 2 at chalfont? If the track closures are like they say, there won't be a very intensive train service running. Not sure whether the signals are in place for such a move, though... There is a signal from P2 at Chalfont to the single line, however it's a shunt signal, which (as a general rule) can't be used for ordinary passenger working.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2011 12:13:09 GMT
I'm sure that the bays been de-comissioned. Probably wrong though. It has been taken out of use at the moment, a track fuse has been pulled (preventing a train being signalled into the platform) though I don't think it's a full-scale decommissioning as the tripcock testers are still in working order, as is the OPO monitor/mirror.
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Post by redsetter on Jul 23, 2011 17:10:36 GMT
last winter the shuttle returned for a period,without a train specifically for that purpose it cannot be used,wonder if the same will happen again at some point if the weather dictates the lines separation.
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Post by SE13 on Jul 23, 2011 18:29:11 GMT
last winter the shuttle returned for a period,without a train specifically for that purpose it cannot be used,wonder if the same will happen again at some point if the weather dictates the lines separation. It can't unless a 4 car unit A stock is available - This time in a couple of years, possibly less, that won't even be an option. That said, it was freak weather conditions last winter, and unlikely to be replicated (at least I hope not) Does beg a question though, if the need arises, is it possible to have a mod for selective door opening, as in the rear 4 of a N/B S8. Our resident experts here say that it's not going to happen anyway, and who am I to argue? That last Chesham shuttle was a rather good outing!
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Post by citysig on Jul 23, 2011 19:10:27 GMT
I think there's someone in our own line management, or someone in timetables who has a sense of humour (December 2011's timetable has maybe already revealed that ;D ) We send out all that publicity last December on the shuttle coming to an end. We have an "event" sending off the shuttle. Then within a fortnight it returns due to bad weather. We then remove it again and say that is that. Then we run for 8 months with a through service, decommission the bay 6 months into those 8 months, only to re-open everything at the end of August. The contingency plans for leaf-fall still haven't been revealed to those who will have to implement them, so nothing would surprise me anymore. We're on a wait and see with the subject of this thread I think - because it seems nobody who should know seems to know ;D ;D
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Post by Chris M on Jul 27, 2011 18:28:15 GMT
As for any long-term return to operation of the Chesham shuttle, I can say with certainty that it will never happen. Knowing LU, I wouldn't be quite so categorical. "It'll never happen while then entire Metropolitan Line service is operated by S stock trains" would seem to me to be a more certain statement. For all we know the replacement stock could consist of 8x1-car units for ultimate flexibility.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2011 21:05:18 GMT
This sounds far fetched, but would a spare C stock unit formed into a 4 car or maybe even a double ended D stock be able to get up there to operate a shuttle? ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2011 21:13:56 GMT
C stock has, in the past, run up that way - I can remember having travelled in one!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2011 21:14:35 GMT
C stock would cry doing Met speeds
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Post by metrailway on Jul 27, 2011 21:15:25 GMT
C stock has travelled to Amersham before...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2011 21:28:13 GMT
A recent 'space allocation' refers to abandoning the bay platform and reconfiguring the points as a 'standard' junction so it looks as if its going.
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Post by citysig on Jul 27, 2011 22:28:13 GMT
I'm sure somewhere on this forum there is an ideas area. I'm all for general discussion but hasn't the question about the shuttle run its course. The shuttle was "ended" at the start of the December 2010 timetable. Yes indeed it was re-instated due to numerous problems, and whilst we still had the capacity to do so. Then it was ended once more. Forthcoming engineering works are also taking advantage of the fact that we still have the track and we still have a double-ended 4-car A-stock. After that, given the step-up in S-stock introduction, and given the service plans for the future, it is unlikely that the shuttle will return on any long-term basis. The bay is to be decommissioned (again) following its use in the near future. I blame my own management for giving some of you this unnecessary hope, but I also blame those who insist we run as much as we can during engineering works. We should have simply supplied buses for the branch Yesterday I had discussion concerning the 2013 timetable, and at no point was a Chesham shuttle an option. Your next bid to re-instate it on a regular basis is therefore May 2014. Good luck ;D
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