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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2011 18:12:39 GMT
Hi guys,
I have always wondered about this what appeared to be branch off the eastbound district line road. There was a factory there, so I am guessing it was their rail link?
Does anyone know when this was lifted and was there points on the wb and eb?
Cheers
James
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Post by superteacher on May 25, 2011 18:18:23 GMT
I know it went to the May and Baker factory. The factory is still there, but it has changed its name several times!
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Post by oe on May 25, 2011 19:38:29 GMT
On topic: The sidings are marked pretty clearly on the 1962-63 1:2,500 OS map. It appears that the sidings connected to the LTS running lines crossing the District in the process. What operational issues might this have caused and what cooperation would there have been between LUL and LTS, or whoever, to enable trains to traverse the District tracks?
Off topic (apologies): And it's closing down for good in 2013. I know over the last few years the company has been downsizing its operations there and - ahem -encouraging its staff to find other work. People went from <30k on shift to around 18k on days. It will be interesting to see what happens to the site and how much decontamination is required before redevelopment. I think the local council are keen for a new school, probably just a replacement for Eastbrook comp, among new housing. But it is a shame that Dagenham has lost another major employer (and two cracking cricket pitches). The job market is such that I commute everyday from Dagenham to Elstree.
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Post by superteacher on May 25, 2011 20:13:23 GMT
On topic: The sidings are marked pretty clearly on the 1962-63 1:2,500 OS map. It appears that the sidings connected to the LTS running lines crossing the District in the process. What operational issues might this have caused and what cooperation would there have been between LUL and LTS, or whoever, to enable trains to traverse the District tracks? Off topic (apologies): And it's closing down for good in 2013. I know over the last few years the company has been downsizing its operations there and - ahem -encouraging its staff to find other work. People went from <30k on shift to around 18k on days. It will be interesting to see what happens to the site and how much decontamination is required before redevelopment. I think the local council are keen for a new school, probably just a replacement for Eastbrook comp, among new housing. But it is a shame that Dagenham has lost another major employer (and two cracking cricket pitches). The job market is such that I commute everyday from Dagenham to Elstree. I lived about a mile from it for over 20 years, so know the area well. Still teach fairly near to it, and agree that the loss of the cricket pitches would be a shame! |
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Post by phillw48 on May 25, 2011 21:52:27 GMT
The line crossed the District lines but was not connected to them, or at least post-war. The siding was removed at or about the same time as the LT&S electrification. The last time it was used would have been in the mid 50's
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Post by DWS on May 25, 2011 22:09:50 GMT
The line crossed the District lines but was not connected to them, or at least post-war. The siding was removed at or about the same time as the LT&S electrification. The last time it was used would have been in the mid 50's If it was last used in the 1950's , why was it interlocked with the new District Line signals at Dagenham East, installed in around 1960, controlled from the LT Signal Box at Barking ? |
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Post by Chris M on May 26, 2011 22:34:06 GMT
Just because it hadn't been used in a few years didn't necessarily mean that it wouldn't be used again in the future. The short-termist thinking we have today hadn't fully taken hold by then.
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Post by phillw48 on May 27, 2011 8:36:01 GMT
Quite so, my information is that the siding was lifted shortly afterwards.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2011 12:44:43 GMT
11/9/60 - New (LT) signalling commissioned Dagenham East with control from Barking LT cabin. Access to May & Baker's yard within Dagenham East area of control (area code FG).
April 1969 - May & Baker’s over crossing east of Dagenham East de-commissioned.
I am sure I posted similar some time ago under another thread, but wouldn't know where to search.
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Post by phillw48 on May 27, 2011 16:22:15 GMT
The crossing was long OOU by the mid 60's. The gates across the siding were almost hidden by trees and shrubs.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2011 16:47:14 GMT
Out of use it may have been but it was still April 1969 before it was officially de-commissioned.
Traffic Circular 15/69.
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Post by phillw48 on May 27, 2011 18:56:04 GMT
The reason it would have been included in the signal updates and improvements is because it crosses and is connected to passenger carrying lines and therefore a legal necessity. From an operational point of view it must have been a nightmare unless transfers took place outside of normal operating hours.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2011 18:54:18 GMT
The Chase as the green bit between the stations is known locally is supposedly contaminated by the waste from May and Baker. That's why it hasn't been built on.
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Post by phillw48 on May 28, 2011 20:16:34 GMT
The Chase was never part of May & Bakers, it used to be gravel pits. It was incorporated in the Green Belt after WW2 and is now designated a country park. There is no contamination as far as I am aware but a lot of it is liable to flooding.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2011 13:14:54 GMT
I understand what you are saying, but I have it on good authority that there was some dumping of er.. stuff there.
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Post by phillw48 on May 29, 2011 17:49:01 GMT
The gravel pits were filled with household rubbish in the 60's. This was at the western end of the site near to the factory. Some of the pits are used for angling and have been used as such for at least 50 years.
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