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Post by prjb on May 22, 2011 21:27:31 GMT
There's normally 1 diagram operating to Aldgate off-peak on weekdays at the moment AIUI. Last time I was out, they ran two diagrams UXB - BST and one UXB - ALD. It isn't test running, though! So far it has only been to Aldgate once in service, the rest of the visits have been for testing. Tomorrow is another day however…  |
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2011 21:29:21 GMT
There's normally 1 diagram operating to Aldgate off-peak on weekdays at the moment AIUI. Last time I was out, they ran two diagrams UXB - BST and one UXB - ALD. It isn't test running, though! So far it has only been to Aldgate once in service, the rest of the visits have been for testing. Tomorrow is another day however… That's not as I understood it! That, is odd... another source on here reported it as running a diagram UXB-ALD that day I was referring to. Can't quite remember which thread it was in, though! |
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Post by prjb on May 22, 2011 23:48:27 GMT
Nope, absolutely promise it has only been there once so far in service. My team decides when we are ready to enter new areas of the railway and all the pieces of the jigsaw only came together on Friday for us to agree further passenger operations. I am not speculating here, you can take this information to the bank!  |
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Post by Chris M on May 23, 2011 0:47:35 GMT
I am not speculating here, you can take this information to the bank! Given the recent attitude to gambling displayed by the banks, I'm not sure that's a very first commitment at all |
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Post by cooperman on May 23, 2011 10:53:01 GMT
I got on one from Baker Street to Chesham, a couple of weeks back. These our my thoughts. It was an all stations to Chesham, quite slow all the way up to Chalfont, then picked up speed on the single track. I'm no fatty, but the seats where quite narrow. I also thought the Lightning was a bit too bright, but this could have been due to the Bright interior. Very smooth journey. |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2011 12:40:12 GMT
The longitudinal seats are a bit narrow, and I'm pleased that I'm not the only one to think that! They're similar to the Picc seats in that respect, I think. I could swear that the Jubilee, Bakerloo, Victoria and Northern line stock have a bit more room.
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Post by rincew1nd on May 23, 2011 18:06:01 GMT
So far it has only been to Aldgate once in service, the rest of the visits have been for testing. Tomorrow is another day however… I had a lovely picnic at Euston Square today, only to be disturbed by some bright lights coming down the tunnel at one point! I had a nice little jolly to Aldgate, including seeing the Track Recording Train going the other way! As we trundled along I was greeted by the sight of a group of adults sitting three abreast on one of the transverse seats! Overall I liked it, nice and bright. The doors auto closing at Aldgate did confuse me momentarily, and I was a little scared at the speed at which they re-open when you press the button - made me jump! Earlier on here, people were asking about the noise of escaping air before they set off; I was watching the brake cylinder pressure gauge in the saloon and unlike on the older stock where it drops steadily with one hiss of air, it dropped in 'installments' in tandem with the stoccato air hisses. Couldn't think why though. Overall, I'm going to stick my neck out and say I like it! Oh, btw, the "Yoof" sat behind me said to his mate, "wow, cool, it's like those Watford trains you can see all the way down." |
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Post by superteacher on May 23, 2011 18:28:42 GMT
What train number was it running on?
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2011 18:33:50 GMT
What train number was it running on? 431, operated by 21003+21004. |
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Post by rincew1nd on May 23, 2011 18:47:43 GMT
What train number was it running on? 431, operated by 21003+21004. +1 |
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Post by 21146 on May 23, 2011 19:57:24 GMT
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Post by retep on May 23, 2011 20:09:06 GMT
The longitudinal seats are a bit narrow, and I'm pleased that I'm not the only one to think that! They're similar to the Picc seats in that respect, I think. I could swear that the Jubilee, Bakerloo, Victoria and Northern line stock have a bit more room. I don't agree Bakerloo doesn't have much floor space especially with some of the transverse seating. Looking at photos of 95 tube stock's interior and s stock's interior it seems S stock has more floor space however it doesn't have much more floor space to stand where there is transverse seating. |
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Post by superteacher on May 23, 2011 20:51:52 GMT
What train number was it running on? 431, operated by 21003+21004. Thanks. |
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Post by prjb on May 23, 2011 22:44:06 GMT
I am not speculating here, you can take this information to the bank! Given the recent attitude to gambling displayed by the banks, I'm not sure that's a very first commitment at all That is really very funny! ;D |
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Post by prjb on May 23, 2011 22:46:26 GMT
So far it has only been to Aldgate once in service, the rest of the visits have been for testing. Tomorrow is another day however… I had a lovely picnic at Euston Square today, only to be disturbed by some bright lights coming down the tunnel at one point! I had a nice little jolly to Aldgate, including seeing the Track Recording Train going the other way! As we trundled along I was greeted by the sight of a group of adults sitting three abreast on one of the transverse seats! Overall I liked it, nice and bright. The doors auto closing at Aldgate did confuse me momentarily, and I was a little scared at the speed at which they re-open when you press the button - made me jump! Earlier on here, people were asking about the noise of escaping air before they set off; I was watching the brake cylinder pressure gauge in the saloon and unlike on the older stock where it drops steadily with one hiss of air, it dropped in 'installments' in tandem with the stoccato air hisses. Couldn't think why though. Overall, I'm going to stick my neck out and say I like it! Oh, btw, the "Yoof" sat behind me said to his mate, "wow, cool, it's like those Watford trains you can see all the way down." Glad you liked it. I wasn't on it today but monitored it's progress. |
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Post by prjb on May 23, 2011 22:48:05 GMT
The longitudinal seats are a bit narrow, and I'm pleased that I'm not the only one to think that! They're similar to the Picc seats in that respect, I think. I could swear that the Jubilee, Bakerloo, Victoria and Northern line stock have a bit more room. I'm suprised you say that. It has been a long time since I sat in design reviews at Derby (it really does seem so long ago now!) but am sure the seats are slightly wider than a 'D' stock seat. |
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Post by rincew1nd on May 23, 2011 22:52:59 GMT
I had a lovely picnic at Euston Square today, only to be disturbed by some bright lights coming down the tunnel at one point! As at least two people have asked now, yes I did actually have a picnic at Euston Square, no I didn't have a checked blanket and picnic basket and no I didn't leave any crumbs on the shiny new train! |
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Post by edwin on May 24, 2011 1:37:27 GMT
I waited at Finchley Road for my first ride on an S Stock, but to no avail... I missed at least 6 A Stocks as well.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2011 10:40:40 GMT
The longitudinal seats are a bit narrow, and I'm pleased that I'm not the only one to think that! They're similar to the Picc seats in that respect, I think. I could swear that the Jubilee, Bakerloo, Victoria and Northern line stock have a bit more room. I don't agree Bakerloo doesn't have much floor space especially with some of the transverse seating. Looking at photos of 95 tube stock's interior and s stock's interior it seems S stock has more floor space however it doesn't have much more floor space to stand where there is transverse seating. I didn't say anything about floor space...  |
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2011 10:44:02 GMT
The longitudinal seats are a bit narrow, and I'm pleased that I'm not the only one to think that! They're similar to the Picc seats in that respect, I think. I could swear that the Jubilee, Bakerloo, Victoria and Northern line stock have a bit more room. I'm suprised you say that. It has been a long time since I sat in design reviews at Derby (it really does seem so long ago now!) but am sure the seats are slightly wider than a 'D' stock seat. I don't regularly travel on D stock, so I can't comment, but it does seem to me that the Jubilee has a tiny bit more room compared to the Picc and S stock. The S stock longitudinal seats aren't unreasonable, but naturally the armrests would make them seem narrower compared to the transverse seating. |
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Post by t697 on May 24, 2011 19:09:02 GMT
I'm suprised you say that. It has been a long time since I sat in design reviews at Derby (it really does seem so long ago now!) but am sure the seats are slightly wider than a 'D' stock seat. I don't regularly travel on D stock, so I can't comment, but it does seem to me that the Jubilee has a tiny bit more room compared to the Picc and S stock. The S stock longitudinal seats aren't unreasonable, but naturally the armrests would make them seem narrower compared to the transverse seating. The S stock seats comply with the current LU minimum of 495mm. D stock only had to meet 460mm. I seem to recall most older Tube stock seats were about that width. They might seem a little wider with the armrests not coming down to the base. You could try some quick checks with a tape measure of course! I too notice you still seem close to the next passengers on S stock! Not actually squashed like in the middle of the wider bench on A stock though. |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2011 11:49:41 GMT
Yes, the handrests may be making the difference: I'm certainly not worried enough to get a tape measure out  |
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Post by prjb on May 25, 2011 21:23:57 GMT
I'm suprised you say that. It has been a long time since I sat in design reviews at Derby (it really does seem so long ago now!) but am sure the seats are slightly wider than a 'D' stock seat. I don't regularly travel on D stock, so I can't comment, but it does seem to me that the Jubilee has a tiny bit more room compared to the Picc and S stock. The S stock longitudinal seats aren't unreasonable, but naturally the armrests would make them seem narrower compared to the transverse seating. Interesting, I will pay more attention next time I am on the Jubilee! |
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Post by edwin on May 26, 2011 1:51:13 GMT
I waited at Finchley Road for my first ride on an S Stock, but to no avail... I missed at least 6 A Stocks as well. ^^ 2 days after this incident I got my first ride! It was completely out of the blue, I wasn't even waiting for one and suddenly at Baker Street the brighter headlights of the S Stock come curving out from Great Portland Street. The seats are nowhere near as bad as everyone makes out, I actually found them comfy. Sure, they aren't as nice as the sofa-like seats of the A Stock put they're just as comfortable as the seats on the 96TS/95TS. The windows are nice and big. The train is also far smoother and it felt very different from the A Stock, more so than the difference between the 67TS/09TS. I guess it's probably to do with the first Sub-surface train to have the features that deep level lines have had since the 92TS. But all in all, I liked it. |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2011 18:45:19 GMT
Got on one a couple of days ago at Finchley Road, quite a warm day, and what immediately hit me was the air conditioning. Marvellous. In hot summers S-stocks will totally transform the travelling experience on the SSL. Not to mention the bright and airy interior, which makes A-stock look dated and stuffy.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2011 20:31:49 GMT
I don't regularly travel on D stock, so I can't comment, but it does seem to me that the Jubilee has a tiny bit more room compared to the Picc and S stock. The S stock longitudinal seats aren't unreasonable, but naturally the armrests would make them seem narrower compared to the transverse seating. The S stock seats comply with the current LU minimum of 495mm. D stock only had to meet 460mm. I seem to recall most older Tube stock seats were about that width. They might seem a little wider with the armrests not coming down to the base. You could try some quick checks with a tape measure of course! I too notice you still seem close to the next passengers on S stock! Not actually squashed like in the middle of the wider bench on A stock though. TfL have rules on seat size? But to be honest, 49.5cm is more than enough for most people. If I squeeze up tightly I only take up 35-40cm or possibly less. |
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2011 16:06:29 GMT
I had my 1st ride on s stock today from kings cross to Liverpool street, i think they real good so I decided to wait for the same train to come back WB and took it to Baker Street carriage number was 21004
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Post by a60 on May 30, 2011 21:41:53 GMT
Made my maiden S Stock voyage today, it wasn't too bad, I could sit here and make Jeremy Clarkson-style comments on what acceleration sounds like (sighs discontentedly). The S Stock is undoubtedly suitable for Uxbridge and Watford to the city on local patterns. As for other duties, I think that something more needs doing, Amersham - Aldgate this afternoon, my buttocks were numb, I can say.
With the interconnecting cars being as, I was forced to listen to the delights of someone yelling at their mate on the phone two carriages down. Seats and noise (or as Boris would label them, 'oiks,') are my only really complaints, it is fit for the 21st Century, whereas the A Stock, sadly aren't cutting the accessibility mustard nowadays.
So, at least we can have decent trains for half the service, and the same trains are half decent for the other half of it. The A Stock are now slowly replacing the T Stock in the depot up there, the almighty is excited about his new toys....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2011 21:37:08 GMT
I experienced my first S stock journey this afternoon. 21009, Baker St > Uxbridge. I hate to admit it but I was pretty impressed, was expecting all sorts after reading posts on here.
I sat transverve and the seats were definately comfortable enough for the 40+min Journey I had, I liked the 2 positions I could rest my left arm in!
The climate inside was nice and cool, then again it wasn't the hotest of days today. Be interesting to see what its like come high summer.
Perfrmance wise, very smooth, even when we were at top speed between Finchley Rd and Wembley Pk, I know they have been 'capped' to match the A's performance but to me it felt we were accelerating much faster than an A.
Now my Gripes! I didn't like the fact I had someone staring at my ear for 40min, kind of made me feel uncomfortable at times Haha. I also found the DVA annoying but I guess that cause having been a Met user for the 27yrs of my life, I've never had something telling me what 'The next Station is' and 'Change here for'
For comical value, I almost jarred my knee when alighting at Uxbridge, was expecting the usual leap down from the train only to find it a little step!!
If I could have it my way, I'd have the A stock running for many, many more years....I can't. They have given us nigh on 50 years of sterling service but I hate to say it, their time has come. Those of us who like them should enjoy them whilst we can. (Soz for going off topic and the end!)
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