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Post by edwardfox on May 12, 2011 1:10:41 GMT
On one of the DC stations, N/B, there had been no train for around 20 minutes. Then an announcement came "The train approaching Platform 2 is the delayed ---- London Underground service to Harrow & Wealdstone" Despite being delayed, and there being nothing in front of him, the driver of the train proceeded to Harrow & Wealdstone at a very sedate pace - not slow, but noticeably not as fast as some Bakerloo trains run. Is there no attempt these days to make up lost time? Noticed the same thing on FCC's Moorgate services when running out in the open.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2011 8:35:27 GMT
Was it a LU train or a LOROL train?
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Post by causton on May 12, 2011 17:58:47 GMT
It may have been that the describer was wrong - after all, trains do get switched around set numbers and the driver may have been running to time by his book! The times on those NR describers are based on what trains they think are running and is rarely updated to reflect changes in my experience.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2011 19:04:56 GMT
It all depends on the individual driver.
On the southern branch (Kennington to Morden) of the Northern Line, some drivers prefer to stop leisurely at stations and hang around for 30-45 seconds during off peak times to make sure everyone has time to get off and nobody needs to move at more than 1 mile per hour.
However other drivers see 6-7 seconds as sufficient and if you have any luggage or only realised that you had arrived at your station when the announcement played then you have to practically throw yourself out of the doors, using anything you have with you as a wedge to keep them open long enough for you to alight.
It all depends on the driver.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2011 19:39:37 GMT
It all depends on the individual driver. On the southern branch (Kennington to Morden) of the Northern Line, some drivers prefer to stop leisurely at stations and hang around for 30-45 seconds during off peak times to make sure everyone has time to get off and nobody needs to move at more than 1 mile per hour. However other drivers see 6-7 seconds as sufficient and if you have any luggage or only realised that you had arrived at your station when the announcement played then you have to practically throw yourself out of the doors, using anything you have with you as a wedge to keep them open long enough for you to alight. It all depends on the driver. Depends on the state of the service too. You may see on the dot matrix that there's a train every two to three minutes or what have you, and assume everything is normal but behind the scenes there may be a fair bit of late running going on and trains running out of sequence to that in the timetable. This has a bearing on staff behaviour. Also, in the instances where dwell times are slack this may be to provide a more even service if the train behind is a little way off. There's method in the madness! ;D
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Post by North End on May 23, 2011 8:09:23 GMT
It all depends on the individual driver. On the southern branch (Kennington to Morden) of the Northern Line, some drivers prefer to stop leisurely at stations and hang around for 30-45 seconds during off peak times to make sure everyone has time to get off and nobody needs to move at more than 1 mile per hour. However other drivers see 6-7 seconds as sufficient and if you have any luggage or only realised that you had arrived at your station when the announcement played then you have to practically throw yourself out of the doors, using anything you have with you as a wedge to keep them open long enough for you to alight. It all depends on the driver. Depends on the state of the service too. You may see on the dot matrix that there's a train every two to three minutes or what have you, and assume everything is normal but behind the scenes there may be a fair bit of late running going on and trains running out of sequence to that in the timetable. This has a bearing on staff behaviour. Also, in the instances where dwell times are slack this may be to provide a more even service if the train behind is a little way off. There's method in the madness! ;D The weekday off-peak timetable has a lot of stand time built in, so if running on time fast driving will result in being held at Tooting Broadway, Kennington, Golders Green, Colindale / Finchley Central on a northbound run. Some drivers prefer to go slow to avoid being held, whilst others prefer to go at full speed and then be able to drink their tea at Kennington (or whatever). However at weekends and in the peak hours the timetable is more demanding. And if running late (which may not be apparent to the passenger), a lot of time can be made up. A decent driver can leave Morden 6 or 7 minute late and still be on time at Golders Green if the run is clear and the dwell times are minimised.
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