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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2011 17:39:51 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2011 17:45:42 GMT
Yeah, the bay platform. Not the imaginary depot that the BBC have invented.
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Post by SE13 on Apr 13, 2011 6:02:30 GMT
All round poor reporting there, picture, train description, destination...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2011 6:07:32 GMT
Yes, I don't quite think that a 95ts at Angel is the right train or place...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2011 6:17:47 GMT
From the article:
Do they mean the Mansion House bay platform, and then the train being moved to a depot at the end of the peak?
Once again, sensationalised reporting from the BBC!
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Post by Colin on Apr 13, 2011 9:43:50 GMT
Do they mean the Mansion House bay platform, and then the train being moved to a depot at the end of the peak? Not sure if they actually knew that, but yes, that is exactly what happened. Once again, sensationalised reporting from the BBC! Whilst I don't know exactly what happened, I did pass the "defective" train as I had just departed St James Park westbound when the controller put out a hold message for trains Earls Court to St James Park eastbound (they generally always hold a train in front to help prevent large gaps appearing in the service if it's only a quick delay). As I passed through Victoria, before it was closed, I did not see any smoke, panicking passengers nor anything else to suggest the train had just arrived with a big bang and everyone was running for their lives. Sensationalised? most definitely!! All I do know is there was enough dust (more likely) or whatever kicked up such that Victoria station's fire detection system picked it up and the station was thus evacuated as a precaution (and as per what would always happen should the fire detection system activate). I have heard a rumour as to what actually happened but I shall sit on me hands for now as it is just that and could well be wrong.
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Post by Bighat on Apr 13, 2011 9:55:26 GMT
Do they mean the Mansion House bay platform, and then the train being moved to a depot at the end of the peak? Not sure if they actually knew that, but yes, that is exactly what happened. Once again, sensationalised reporting from the BBC! Whilst I don't know exactly what happened, I did pass the "defective" train as I had just departed St James Park westbound when the controller put out a hold message for trains Earls Court to St James Park eastbound (they generally always hold a train in front to help prevent large gaps appearing in the service if it's only a quick delay). As I passed through Victoria, before it was closed, I did not see any smoke, panicking passengers nor anything else to suggest the train had just arrived with a big bang and everyone was running for their lives. Sensationalised? most definitely!! All I do know is there was enough dust (more likely) or whatever kicked up such that Victoria station's fire detection system picked it up and the station was thus evacuated as a precaution (and as per what would always happen should the fire detection system activate). I have heard a rumour as to what actually happened but I shall sit on me hands for now as it is just that and could well be wrong. I was travelling westbound on a District Line service to Wimbedon (from Mile End) at about the time of this incident. We lingered at Sloan Square for a number of minutes, and the driver (motorman/train op?) announced that 'due to a signal failure at UXBRIDGE, this train is being diverted to Richmond! Go figure!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2011 19:58:08 GMT
Anybody know what the unit numbers of this failed train are ?
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Post by Colin on Apr 13, 2011 22:45:07 GMT
Pass I can say that the reason the incident happened was as per the rumour I'd heard - I've now confirmed the facts after speaking to the driver that was sent to Mansion House to rescue the train. Basically it was down to a mainline air burst caused by a sticky valve. The driver originally dealing with the defect didn't operate the Brake Isolating Cock (which forms part of the isolations that are supposed to be done) and that meant that the brakes continued to apply but not release on the relevant motor car (the D stock system has up to 10 emergency applications in reserve on motor cars). So AIUI, the bang was the main line air burst, and the smoke was the brake shoes overheating.
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Post by Chris M on Apr 14, 2011 9:19:56 GMT
How common are mainline air bursts?
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Post by Colin on Apr 14, 2011 10:26:52 GMT
Not very, which is why its easy to miss something when doing your isolations....
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Post by superteacher on Apr 15, 2011 13:00:26 GMT
I was on a northbound Vic line train at Victoria when I heard the station evacuation messages. Didn't think anything of it at the time, then I heard that the District was part suspended due to a fire alert at Victoria. I made my way to Embankment, where trains were being reversed west to east. There was a poor station assistant who was getting a lot of abuse as she'd told some passengers that the next eastbound would depart from the wetsbound platform, at which point an eastbound arrived in the eastbound platform, then departed! I'm assuming this was the train that had been held at St James's Park. I was disgusted with the abuse this station assistant was getting - it wasn't her fault that she hadn't been given the correct info, and I told this to one very rude lady in no uncertain terms! Anyway, the next train to come through on the eastbound was out of service, and smelt a bit "smoky" - which was the train that had the issue at Victoria.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2011 17:03:59 GMT
the next eastbound would depart from the wetsbound platform, I know it's close to the Thames there but I didn't realise there was a branch ;D ;D Unfortunately the sheepish average punter just aim straight for the first person in uniform, and are too silly to see past the end of their own nose and realise that the SA can only act on information they've been given!
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