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Post by auxsetreq on Mar 7, 2011 15:30:37 GMT
When the line was first built and then extended to Liverpool St the then company were subject to an act of Parliament saying that the line would never go any further east. I think it was an act of Parliament or something like that, its in a book I've got somewhere. Anyway, that obviously had to be rescinded or you'd still be getting the slam door steam train from The Street to Hainault via Ilford. Well this is the UK 2011.
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Post by Bighat on Mar 7, 2011 15:57:08 GMT
When the line was first built and then extended to Liverpool St the then company were subject to an act of Parliament saying that the line would never go any further east. I think it was an act of Parliament or something like that, its in a book I've got somewhere. Anyway, that obviously had to be rescinded or you'd still be getting the slam door steam train from The Street to Hainault via Ilford. Well this is the UK 2011. Or alternatively via Leyton and Woodford! ;D |
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Post by auxsetreq on Mar 7, 2011 16:06:27 GMT
When the line was first built and then extended to Liverpool St the then company were subject to an act of Parliament saying that the line would never go any further east. I think it was an act of Parliament or something like that, its in a book I've got somewhere. Anyway, that obviously had to be rescinded or you'd still be getting the slam door steam train from The Street to Hainault via Ilford. Well this is the UK 2011. Or alternatively via Leyton and Woodford! ;D Did you know at one time you could go from Leyton via Woodford to Colchester. Yes, I thought so, you did. But how fantastic a concept that is now. I was told that when the German bombs rained down on tracks in the UK, the traffic was simply re-routed along some other line. Such was the forethought of the Victorian rail planners. Then came Dr Beecham Powders who sneezed the lot into near oblivion. Seeing that petrol will soon be a £million squidz a pint, what a shortsighted act social of vandalism.............. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2011 16:30:29 GMT
That may be so, but my map does not include the line beyond Liverpool Street as it had not been built in 1944. Oh yes it had! Opening was postponed until after the war and the new tunnels were used for other purposes, including the shelter at Bethnal Green, notorious for the 1943 disaster (I'm sure there must be a thread about it on here somewhere). |
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Post by Bighat on Mar 7, 2011 16:55:58 GMT
That may be so, but my map does not include the line beyond Liverpool Street as it had not been built in 1944. Oh yes it had! Opening was postponed until after the war and the new tunnels were used for other purposes, including the shelter at Bethnal Green, notorious for the 1943 disaster (I'm sure there must be a thread about it on here somewhere). Likewise the tunnels between Leytonstone and Gants Hill, used by the Plessey Company (whose factory, until it closed, was adjacemt to what is now Ilford TMD), who used the tunnels for the manufacture of munitions. There is an LU sponsored poster on the westbound platform of Redbridge Station about this! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2011 17:01:33 GMT
Bighat - do you know if the Plessey tunnel factories used a sort of mini-rail system to move parts in and out?
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Post by Bighat on Mar 7, 2011 18:08:38 GMT
Bighat - do you know if the Plessey tunnel factories used a sort of mini-rail system to move parts in and out? Yes, they certainly did. It was narrow gauge (obviously), about 18 inch IIRC. I will look at the poster next time I use the Station and comeback to you if it any different. Apart from the 'stations' extra shafts were sunk along the route for staff access and ventilation purposes. |
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Post by phillw48 on Mar 7, 2011 18:29:25 GMT
Oh yes it had! Opening was postponed until after the war and the new tunnels were used for other purposes, including the shelter at Bethnal Green, notorious for the 1943 disaster (I'm sure there must be a thread about it on here somewhere). Likewise the tunnels between Leytonstone and Gants Hill, used by the Plessey Company (whose factory, until it closed, was adjacemt to what is now Ilford TMD), who used the tunnels for the manufacture of munitions. There is an LU sponsored poster on the westbound platform of Redbridge Station about this! The map I have shows the tunnel ending at Liverpool Street, the details are overlaid on what must be an earlier map. Also the map was commissioned by the City of London Corporation and anything outside of the 'Square Mile' would not be regarded as important in the context of why the map was drawn up. As it is it is still strange that the line follows the course of Old Broad Street with the resulting sharp bends rather than Bishopsgate. If that had been done there would have been a bend eastbound out of Liverpool Street but not as severe as the one at Bank. |
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Post by jardine01 on Mar 10, 2011 17:08:10 GMT
whats the speed limits in the open sections?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2011 18:14:24 GMT
85 kph (53 mph)
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Post by plasmid on Mar 11, 2011 0:37:25 GMT
Can't they still hit 100kph in manual?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2011 8:16:22 GMT
Can't they still hit 100kph in manual? You could but since Chancery Lane we are restricted to 85kph just in case something falls off and I'd like to keep my job, thank you very much. |
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Post by Chris M on Mar 11, 2011 8:43:19 GMT
Well, bearing in mind there is going to be some earth insulation, and I wouldn't imagine in a million years that the vault walls would be thin.. Rock (in common with many solids) is actually a very good conductor of sound, air is much poorer (in common with most (all?) gasses). |
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