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Post by metman on Mar 6, 2011 0:54:46 GMT
That was an original concept for the Bakerloo. It was planned to take over the stopping services to Harrow and allow the Met to run fast between Finchley Road and Harrow. Where Stanmore fitted in is a little vague...
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Post by causton on Mar 6, 2011 1:08:19 GMT
As in, no Metropolitan trains would stop at Wembley Park at all, meaning that a 2-stop journey would become a 9 (or 7 with a change at Finchley Road) stop journey? Definitely would not like that!
However, making the Jubilee run half to Stanmore and half to HOTH, with one branch of the Met (Wat/Uxb/AmerChesham) running fast past WPK* and the rest stopping, might be a little better...
*(Amersham/Chesham being the most sensible, but then there's the fact that they're not exactly frequent)
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Post by metman on Mar 6, 2011 1:26:10 GMT
Well it never transpired in the end but old Met timetables show that many trains did not stop at Harrow, Wembley Park and some at Finchley Road so it was clearly en vogue at the time.
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Post by citysig on Mar 6, 2011 18:33:01 GMT
In the 2003 timetable I remember that fast southbound trains all used to run down the local line off peak. It was straight after the Wembley Park stop was introduced off peak! It was I believe designed so passengers did not have to move between platforms. In the event the fasts became stuck behind stopping trains and common sense prevailed! Huge bells are ringing in my head about this, and what it was related to, but I cannot for the life of me remember it happening. Don't know why, as I was working within the Met signalling centre, and would have been one of the people responsible for looking after the Wembley area. If it was 2003 then that's only 8 years ago. I'll await one of my other colleagues to put the final piece into the mental puzzle ;D |
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Post by citysig on Mar 6, 2011 18:34:51 GMT
Well it never transpired in the end but old Met timetables show that many trains did not stop at Harrow, Wembley Park and some at Finchley Road so it was clearly en vogue at the time. Looking at a late running Aldgate-Chesham the other week, I did suggest to a colleague that after Baker Street it should be next stop Chesham to pick up time ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2011 18:46:24 GMT
Looking at a late running Aldgate-Chesham the other week, I did suggest to a colleague that after Baker Street it should be next stop Chesham to pick up time ;D There's no available code for that though is there? Fastests you could do in theory would be a code 6 (Finchley Road, Moor Park and all stations) and I don't even know if 6 is available for Chesham. |
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Post by aldenham on Mar 6, 2011 22:05:50 GMT
Proof the the evening through Cheshams used to run fast through HOTH.
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Post by DrOne on Mar 7, 2011 10:54:50 GMT
As in, no Metropolitan trains would stop at Wembley Park at all, meaning that a 2-stop journey would become a 9 (or 7 with a change at Finchley Road) stop journey? Definitely would not like that! However, making the Jubilee run half to Stanmore and half to HOTH, with one branch of the Met (Wat/Uxb/AmerChesham) running fast past WPK* and the rest stopping, might be a little better... *(Amersham/Chesham being the most sensible, but then there's the fact that they're not exactly frequent) Yes branching takes out the blocking caused by tipping out Jubs at intermediate stations and would be a good way to get 24-30 tph out to Wembley and speed up Watford and Uxbridge trains. Mixing of stopping patterns added to all the other services with which the Met interacts limits the achievable tph. For the Met I think a uniform pattern south of HOTH is the most efficient use of track. A stop for all Mets at Wembley Pk can be considered if 30tph Jub doesn't meet the demand. |
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