Why must South Hampstead - Euston be diverted?

Do the conductors ride to and from Watford Junction?

TIA,

Simon

I happened to travel through Primrose Hill today, and despite plenty of clear announcements on the train & posters at the stations, a lot of people became annoyed when they ended up at the "wrong" place.

If people don't bother to listen to announcements because they are too immersed in their conversation or whatever, then as far as I am concerned there's nothing further that should be done to help them.

There is of course the issue that people switch off to announcements because we now have too many everywhere.

Hi notatraindriver, No I am not a conductor I am with TfL London Rail but I was riding with a conductor today.

Driver changeovers at Willesden or Stratford. I'm pretty sure drivers know the whole route. I knew it pretty well myself until the resignalling.

Does anyone know if the line speeds have been raised ?

Can you enlighten me further? As what your saying on here is not done in practise.

No London Overground only has drivers based there. Conductors are based at Willesden, Stratford and Gospel Oak.

Conductors do not sign the route North of Willesden Junction station and at the way things are going they will soon be signing off the diversionary route as well.

Routemaster Keith the rumour is conductors will be retained. Tfl has no plans to change the method of working on the North London Line.

Of course not. It's only heresay from a driver manager.

And the REAL problem with heresay is it should be spelt 'hearsay'!

You obviously know the same wallpaper hanger that I do.

On further reflection having now travelled some more on the 'combined' services, making observations of my own and hearing others I must say I think TfL/LO have done a poor job of clearly explaining to people what's going on. Simply saying 'no service between South Hampstead and Euston' and 'no service between Richmond and Camden Road' certainly does not give the average punter (or even the regular commuter who will have experienced their share of engineering disruption) the impression that a composite service is being operated. This would be the case even if the link being used was visible on maps to those passengers paying attention to the DVAs/DMIs telling them trains are going on the NLL to Watford Junction and the DC to Stratford.

Whilst I hadn't seen any DMI problems the first few times I travelled, the second time I went west through Primrose Hill saw all announcements go dead somewhere around Queens Park. They came back on just before Kensal Green with both visual and aural messages that this was a Watford Junction train... next stop Hackney Wick! You can only imagine people's reactions. As we pulled into Harlesden, the announcements were for South Hampstead. O...K...

Furthermore, after leaving Camden Road the driver made an announcement which whilst clearly well-intentioned, was clearly not well planned (certainly not a standardised message) as in trying to explain the situation to NLL regulars, he said the train would 'not be stopping at stations between Camden Road and Willesden Junction'. Of course, to those already only slightly informed people on the train who realise the next stop is South Hampstead and it's going to Watford Junction, that simply added to the confusion! One woman was on the phone apparently to TfL for some time trying to check the train would in fact stop at Queen's Park - she'd been previously told it would but of course, the driver unintentionally suggested otherwise!

It could have been done a bit better I think

Do trains from Camden Road to South Hampstead use the same track the South Hampstead to Camden Road trains use?