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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2011 20:10:11 GMT
Any views on the new station groups / depot arrangements / centurion manager moves as a result of OSP?
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Post by rincew1nd on Feb 10, 2011 22:40:27 GMT
OSP?
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Post by North End on Feb 11, 2011 1:00:48 GMT
Any views on the new station groups / depot arrangements / centurion manager moves as a result of OSP? On the Trains side, the new structure is inferior to what was in place before. We now have a messy & inflexible management structure populated with inferior people, with a lower benchmark standard of performance as a result.
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Post by version3point1 on Feb 11, 2011 1:31:08 GMT
In a nutshell? It's rubbish. And if you've been displaced like I have, you find yourself spare spare spare, but running a station that has no duties uncovered... because everybody else is taking the p*ss because you're spare. On my group, I also find it's divided a lot of people – its made the remaining rostered staff feel hard done by and the displaced/reserves with a bitter taste in the mouth. You've got one station whinging about how they've lost 6 members of staff off a 16-man roster and how they're short-staffed on event days, yet before people were displaced, those who were definitely safe on the roster were thinking about how to make the new rosters work for them – tweaking it to make it more 'socially/family friendly'. (Ergo, the management see that you're adapting to having less staff on your roster, ergo you're not going to get those displaced numbers back.) One of the union reps suggested on this particular station that everybody try a week of working to rule, just to see where the cracks in the new rosters were, but hey... Some of us didn't even get letters to confirm in writing when we were going to be displaced, and since the changes have happened, I haven't even been briefed by a manager about WTF is going on. With station familiarisations, it's the blind leading the blind – I was familiarised on one station by a guy who'd only been there 5 hours. Who cares if the station is now three times the size as it was when I last worked there over 3 years ago? Pffft. /rant. Operational Strategic Plan, which branches off Project Horizon. LU loves its acronyms even in these times. 8)
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Post by 21146 on Feb 11, 2011 12:31:54 GMT
No surprise then that the "Speak Up '10" results are being quietly buried, and how convenient too that LU failed to exceed the last CSI bonus target by just one point.
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Post by version3point1 on Feb 11, 2011 22:11:25 GMT
Yes - funny that – bar one or two points, responses from the Operational side were significantly worse compared to last year's survey. I'm appalled that Mike Brown has seen this and shrugged it off with a 'we see there's a problem, and hope to do something about it' response on his 'blog' when the results came out. Any firm that hoped to take some sort of responsibility during a time of change would do well to pay attention to these results, but I doubt it will go much further. It's not even that well publicised on the Intranet – I had to do a bit of searching before I could come across the results myself.
Can somebody answer me this? Why were displaced members of staff on stations that changed groups not given the opportunity to choose which group out of the two they went to as a reserve? (As opposed to some reserve staff who got a choice.)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2011 22:56:47 GMT
Because we're just numbers on a sheet of paper next to headcount/Section 12 minimums right? The people who are supposed to care at the local level are centurions but they are too busy getting moved (or sacked) themselves.
As far as the Company are concerned, we get lost in the battle with Bob Crow and his merry men - they see us as one and the same. We are therefore the enemy right?! It is simply a lack of fundamental care and concern. But how can the enemy (moreover, people treated as the enemy) deliver a World Class Tube....?
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Post by 21146 on Feb 13, 2011 16:07:33 GMT
A classic example of TFL seen yesterday at around 20:00. Near Bow Church DLR station, hordes of police and bus revenue staff checking passengers on route 25 bendi-buses, obviously on the lookout for those without tickets or valid Oyster Cards. A few hundred yards further on is Bow Road LU station, where the District Line rail replacement buses (RRBS) are stopping [yet again]. But there's no ticket check here and passengers are merely waved on board. Furthermore, Bow Road station is actually shut with doors bolted as on strike days. So you can't buy a ticket even if you're dumb enough to want to. Presumably today Bow Road is another of the unstaffed stations LU say they don't have? I believe TFL effectively allow RRBS to be "free" as a form of compensation for all the inconvenience the engineering work causes passengers. Let's hope they don't plead poverty for loss of revenue anytime soon, and who's picking up the tab for all this?
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Post by Ben on Feb 13, 2011 16:38:46 GMT
RRBs are free though aren't they? As they don't have facilities to take or check a fare. I've never payed on one since oyster. If anything its one of the few things I'd say couldn't be better with that aspect of service, as its certainly a nice courtesy. No doubt when they find a way to charge though...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2011 17:00:43 GMT
RRBs are free though aren't they? As they don't have facilities to take or check a fare. I've never payed on one since oyster. If anything its one of the few things I'd say couldn't be better with that aspect of service, as its certainly a nice courtesy. No doubt when they find a way to charge though... You are still supposed to have a valid ticket for the tube journey the bus is replacing before you get on board so I think what 21146 is suggesting that some scallywags just hop on and grab a free ride. The bus companies don't care as they are just being paid to provide the buses 21146 – we have the results of Speak Out up on the notice board at Leytonstone Train Crew Accommodation, makes interesting reading. Back to the original question there are a lot of very unhappy TOps at West Ruislip and Loughton as all the admin staff are now at White City and Hainault, so either every thing has to be done by memo or you can try and get them on the phone (fat chance) or you have to go round there outside of work hours. At White City I’ve been told that the AG1s are so busy dealing with the two depots that you can only see them by making an appointment through the DMT (or whatever they are called these days).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2011 18:15:42 GMT
either every thing has to be done by memo or you can try and get them on the phone (fat chance) or you have to go round there outside of work hours Don't they have e-mails?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2011 18:20:07 GMT
[Don't they have e-mails? I'm sure they do but not all TOps do. Don't even know if the AGs would accept email requests for whatever. Welcome to the wacky world of LUL!
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