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Post by cso on Feb 7, 2011 13:32:27 GMT
How long should trains on the Central Line (on a Sunday) give you to get on and off a train?
We were travelling on one yesterday (West Ruislip -> Epping, Car #93250, Train 006 apparently) which was giving passengers about 7 seconds to get on and off at most stations between West Ruislip and Holborn! I'll know the time when my journey appears on the Oyster website...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2011 13:58:43 GMT
The “countdown clock” gives us 20 secs in the peak and 30 secs in the off so on a Sunday it should be 30 secs. Rough guide is that Sonia should get through her entire spiel about where you are and where the train is going before the doors close, if it's shorter than that then someone is closing up early, probably because their late for their meal break or late finishing.
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Post by littlebrute on Feb 7, 2011 18:36:48 GMT
Not strictly central line, but once on a H&C around 11:30pm the driver literally (and I counted) stopped at almost every station and if you weren't up and out or in within 7 seconds you weren't getting on or off!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2011 18:40:54 GMT
Must admit to being pretty quick on the doors, but only really in the dead of night out in the sticks east or west... The countdown chimes do their thing as I am half way to the next station almost!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2011 20:13:02 GMT
I recall years ago timing station stops on the Met (Harrow area), and from memory it was typically doors open 1 (yes, one) sec after train coming to stop, then they were open for 15 sec, and then another 5 seconds for the train to be on the move. Two man operated A stock, no chimes!
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Post by cso on Feb 8, 2011 10:34:47 GMT
Thanks aslefshrugged... thought 7 seconds seemed a little short - especially as we were announcing 'This is Ruislip Garden's' after we'd left!
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Post by rincew1nd on Feb 8, 2011 21:15:23 GMT
The nearest WTT to where I'm sat (District 127; Sep 2000) lists dwell times at each station.
At off peak and weekend they are 15 to 20 seconds.
At peak times they are 20 to 30 seconds.
(Longer times at central stations)
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Post by mrfs42 on Feb 8, 2011 21:47:23 GMT
Unfortunately the dwell time summaries are no longer published, and haven't been so for a goodly long time. Makes spotting a Run Time Variation a bit harder...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2011 11:37:07 GMT
A question about the countdown timer. Does it change depending on which station you're at?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2011 12:23:35 GMT
A question about the countdown timer. Does it change depending on which station you're at? No. All are the standard 20 or 30 seconds though if we are timetabled to hold at a specific station it will keep us there until we are due to depart. These tend to be where the station starter signal is a semi-auto, the only exception I can think of is Oxford Circus, we get held longer there on a regular basis. The Line Controller can slap on some extra time to regulate the service though if it’s more than a minute or so they normally call us on the radio to do it. Interesting thing to keep an eye on, if the dot matrix destination board over the platform is flashing “Mind the doors” the countdown on the train is in the last ten seconds. Half the station staff don’t even spot that one……
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2011 13:13:20 GMT
I had noticed that it seemed to be the case with the DMIs, didn't realise that there was an in-train countdown though!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2011 13:20:25 GMT
Are the drivers allowed to close the doors and start the train even if the CSAs have not shown them the bats?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2011 14:24:23 GMT
The SATS are there as a guide really. I do normally wait until the countdown chimes do their thing, but on the odd occasion, I'll close up a few seconds before. Unless I have signals against me, then I won't, obviously!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2011 16:23:29 GMT
Are the drivers allowed to close the doors and start the train even if the CSAs have not shown them the bats? No, no, a thousand times no. A few years ago I was at Oxford Circus WB, there was a SATS and a Station Super/DSM/someone in a white shirt together on the platform and I waited for the baton. When nothing happened I thought there was a reason why I was being held so I waited. Eventually the “white shirt” approached the cab and asked me why I hadn’t left. When I said I’d been waiting for the SATS to raise the baton I was told it had been raised, only then did I realise that they were holding it so low that I couldn’t see it because the “white shirt” had been obscuring my view. When I got off I was told to write a memo explaining why I had delayed the service and was told that the SATS are there to assist and at no time should I wait for them to raise the baton. In other words they are a complete waste of manpower, we have CCTV, so why the fudge are they there?
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