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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2011 17:35:07 GMT
I was just wondering about when someone gets suspended.
What stops them from attempting to get a different membership using different information about themselves? [Probably false.]
How do the admins know?
I would guess after a while that it would become obvious because the postings would trend toward the same objectionable behavior.
I just can't remember what I was required to provide when I signed up other than what I see in my profile.
I am sure almost all members, including myself, are above board but there may be some who aren't.
I appreciate, by the way, the work the administrators do to keep things on the straight and narrow on this forum.
I don't want to start an extended discussion, so the admins can lock this after maybe an insight or two. Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2011 17:45:22 GMT
IP address- simple as.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2011 17:49:08 GMT
What if they were to do it at in Internet Cafe?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2011 18:03:12 GMT
What if they were to do it at in Internet Cafe? The posting habits would make it obvious in the end then I guess. |
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Post by andypurk on Jan 25, 2011 18:42:59 GMT
IP address isn't generally sufficient, as many homes won't have a fixed one. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2011 18:51:18 GMT
There is nothing you can do to stop somebody sign up. That's why you rely on good forum staff to spot the re-attempts.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2011 19:18:31 GMT
IP address isn't generally sufficient, as many homes won't have a fixed one. Most people stupid enough to get banned aren't smart enough to figure out that unplugging the cable/ADSL modem and plugging it back in = new IP address ;D ;D |
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Post by phillw48 on Jan 25, 2011 19:55:06 GMT
Most people stupid enough to get banned aren't smart enough to figure out that unplugging the cable/ADSL modem and plugging it back in = new IP address ;D ;D Yes, but can they still access the forum and read that. |
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Post by Oracle on Jan 25, 2011 21:15:14 GMT
I am a member of a Forum that covers military history...recently one member was banned yet again and his six aliases were mentioned! On another Forum where I have been a Mod for 11 1/2 years, we the Mods & Admins often discuss banned members who try and sneak back in. Their postings give them away even though they change their IP addresses and other details.
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Post by cso on Jan 25, 2011 21:25:14 GMT
Most people stupid enough to get banned aren't smart enough to figure out that unplugging the cable/ADSL modem and plugging it back in = new IP address ;D ;D That's because it's not always the case  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2011 21:38:59 GMT
Most people stupid enough to get banned aren't smart enough to figure out that unplugging the cable/ADSL modem and plugging it back in = new IP address ;D ;D Yes, but can they still access the forum and read that. Blast it.  |
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Post by SE13 on Jan 25, 2011 22:10:28 GMT
Well, as I approve most accounts, I can assure you that nobody can post unless I say so.
When someone registers, the e-mail is cross referenced against everything we know, the IP addresses are already to hand, and I have tools to track every single IP address down to a very close area.
Should anyone slip through that net, we'll pick them up (even if it takes a few weeks) and given that all staff can see IP addresses and e-mail addresses, we can cross reference those at any given time on any suspicion of a banned/suspended member trying to regain access.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2011 22:26:10 GMT
Are forum staff able to see user passwords?
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Post by rincew1nd on Jan 25, 2011 22:33:55 GMT
I have tools to track every single IP address down to a very close area. Though I'm led to believe that I was flagged up as being in Skipton (or at least Craven), despite being firmly in Liverpool! ;D |
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Post by Bighat on Jan 25, 2011 22:50:44 GMT
Well, as I approve most accounts, I can assure you that nobody can post unless I say so. When someone registers, the e-mail is cross referenced against everything we know, the IP addresses are already to hand, and I have tools to track every single IP address down to a very close area. Should anyone slip through that net, we'll pick them up (even if it takes a few weeks) and given that all staff can see IP addresses and e-mail addresses, we can cross reference those at any given time on any suspicion of a banned/suspended member trying to regain access. You also have the facility to read ALL Private messages too!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2011 22:52:22 GMT
You also have the facility to read ALL Private messages too! On ProBoards, the administrators cannot read PMs. |
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Post by Phil on Jan 25, 2011 22:53:08 GMT
Are forum staff able to see user passwords? No - we used to be able to (and change them if appropriate) but proboards stopped it about a year or so ago. Shame in some ways but it makes the members feel more secure I guess...... |
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Post by Phil on Jan 25, 2011 22:55:13 GMT
On ProBoards, the administrators cannot read PMs. Also correct, and is a problem when one member makes an official complaint against another. But again, in the big scheme of things I guess it's for the best. |
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Post by cso on Jan 25, 2011 22:57:11 GMT
I'd hope that people weren't able to view passwords, that would mean Proboards are potentially very vulnerable security wise!
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Post by Colin on Jan 25, 2011 23:37:14 GMT
Right, lets get two things straight: - None of the forum staff have access to account passwords
- None of the forum staff have access to any given members Private Messages
As for banned & suspended members (or any other undesriables come to that), there are a number of tools we make use of to keep them out - naturally we won't be revealing them all here, but lets just say everybody leaves a trail behind them all over the internet. It's a fact that goes with internet use and it does mean that we're all more traceable that we'd like to think we are. Generally speaking we even know who the trouble makers are when we first let them in through the door - we are also members of, or watch other transport related forums - so more often than not we're already one step ahead. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2011 12:41:54 GMT
Thank you, SE13 and Colin, for the clear answer to my question.
Also thanks to others for their insights.
Plus I have learned that being an admin on a forum involves quite a bit of work.
Thanks again for your efforts.
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