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Post by abe on Jan 25, 2011 8:17:51 GMT
Bermondsey station used to have some unique platform seats. They were metal-framed and fixed to the wall, and the seats were made of curved blue glass (or some type of plexiglass). I wandered down there recently and found that they've all been removed and replaced by the standard floor-mounted seating units - a real pity. Having originally posted this to ask if anyone knew when it happened, I then discovered this link. They were all removed last year because of "maintenance contractors’ concerns that the seating failed to provide adequate support for customers with mobility impairments". Words fail me... |
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Post by 21146 on Jan 25, 2011 11:21:37 GMT
They were all removed last year because of "maintenance contractors’ concerns that the seating failed to provide adequate support for customers with mobility impairments". Words fail me... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2011 11:29:56 GMT
Surely the small number of mobility impaired people you see on the tube have their own chair...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2011 13:13:29 GMT
Those seats were uncomfortable to seat on - so I'm not particularly sad they are gone.
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Post by phillw48 on Jan 25, 2011 13:24:53 GMT
Not everybody whose mobility is impaired needs a wheelchair. I have rheumatoid arthritis and by the look of those seats I would find it difficult to sit down on them let alone get off of them in a hurry.
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Post by mcmaddog on Jan 25, 2011 13:32:18 GMT
Yes but equally a single bank of normal seats all marked with priority signs near the lift should suffice rather than ripping up an entire station!
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Post by Tubeboy on Jan 25, 2011 13:40:03 GMT
I remember the email I received at work , which was from a Tubelines Manager, and it stated that the seats "No longer conform to modern safety standards". From memory, there was no reference to Mobility impaired passengers.
What annoyed my colleagues and I was the fact there was no warning or consulation from Tubelines about the matter. They simply turned up one night and removed some of them, and over the following weeks, removed the rest of them. We then received the above email in response to our query.
The old type seating was certainly attractive on the eye, and really blended in with the surroundings. However, as 21146s picture shows, there was no support given to the back when sitting on them. So posture wise, the new seating is better. It also prevents drunks from lying outstretched all over them [as frequently happened].
As the old seating was non standard, I daresay its eventual replacement would have been costly, no doubt a factor in its removal.
Sorry for missing the original post Abe, I never saw it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2011 13:55:22 GMT
The way the Jubilee Line has been running recently they should consider putting in settees and armchairs.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2011 14:29:29 GMT
Why did they not keep some of the plastic seats rather than all of them, that would of been a better solution surely.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2011 14:50:05 GMT
It also prevents drunks from lying outstretched all over them I presume that somebody in the legal department has checked that this course of action won't lay LUL wide open to claims of discrimination against drunks.  |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Jan 25, 2011 21:41:35 GMT
Not everybody whose mobility is impaired needs a wheelchair. A point lost on the designers of much modern public transport: it's getting to the point where if you need a seat on a train, or downstairs on a bus, you have to bring you own! |
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Post by edwardfox on Jan 25, 2011 22:02:59 GMT
While waiting at the bus stop in front of Hackney Town Hall a few years ago, I saw a middle aged gent in a wheelchair steering himself around the outside of the building. Eventually he stopped at the bottom of the main steps, got up out of his wheelchair, folded it up, walked up the steps with no sign of difficulty carrying the chair.
By this time, not being able to resist a closer look, I had abandoned my bus stop and approached the building myself. Just inside the entrance doors, he reassembled his chair and got back in.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2011 22:57:20 GMT
I've obviously got no idea about this gent's condition, but it is possible that he was registered disabled without being permanently confined to a wheelchair. My mother claimed the higher mobility allowance on her Disability Living Allowance (RIP) because she had end stage renal failure, and although she could walk a little way, her condition meant that her energy levels varied dramatically. Of course, he could have been faking it as well  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2011 23:06:19 GMT
Im guessing he's faked it to get benefits, probably just circled round the building as to make it clear to staff inside he's disabled then goes inside to claim some
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2011 23:18:51 GMT
Im guessing he's faked it to get benefits, probably just circled round the building as to make it clear to staff inside he's disabled then goes inside to claim some I think you're on the wrong website. Try this one : www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2011 23:36:41 GMT
^^ LOL
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2011 2:37:19 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2011 7:27:39 GMT
That. Wow.
Very nice one!
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Post by 21146 on Jan 29, 2011 0:45:09 GMT
The seats were removed to harmonise the "platform/train experience", you don't expect to get a seat on the Jubilee Line in the peak, and now the same applies at the station.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2011 16:58:04 GMT
They weren't removed, they were replaced.
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Post by 21146 on Jan 29, 2011 18:28:22 GMT
Weren't the original seats in a continuous strip along the platform, whereas now there are just a few widely-spaced benches?
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Post by Tubeboy on Jan 29, 2011 18:38:30 GMT
There were long strips on both platforms, as in your Flickr photo, but they werent continuous. There was a further strip near the London Bridge end of the platforms [Ie Westbound H/Wall, and Eastbound T/wall] I think the break in seating was due to the platform cross passage as well as the fire hydrants. There was also a strip near the Eastbound H/wall, adjacent to the lower lift landing. Correct, its benches scattered about now.
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