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Post by Oracle on Jan 19, 2011 22:46:36 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2011 22:59:36 GMT
Somewhere on the Met between Harrow on the Hill and Finchley Road?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2011 23:04:24 GMT
Interestingly the shot at the end says Clapham Junction yet I spy 4th rail on one of the tracks...
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roythebus
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Post by roythebus on Jan 19, 2011 23:50:58 GMT
The yard with the red painted cars is the up sidings opposite Wimbledon Park depot. these were lifted many years ago, now the site of B&Q or similar. I remember seeing the standard stock being stored there in about 1966.
In the background is Durnsford Road bridge, middle distance is the Wimbledon home signal array on the DR side; the trees on the far left are still there. the sidings aren't!
The shot on the main line is at Wimbledon, with the old box at the end of the down main platform.
ISTR it was towed there by battery loco, converted to 3 rail, then driven to Eastleigh for refurb, then tested on the SW main lines as shown on the clip. The main line clips are at Wimbledon and Clapham Junction.
Tthe stock was driven to Fratton, the low loadered to the Isle of Wight.
I witnessed the first test run of a tube car on the island on a summer Saturday. It was hauled by an 02, with box van /converter wagon to Shanklin and back. The train stopped at Brading, the doors opened, closed, the tube whistle blew and away it went!
I've also got an 8mm movie of a cab ride from Ryde Pier Head to Smallbrook and beyond in a standard stock car. If anyone knows how to make it into a video, drop me a line.
I reckon the first shot in the clip is Shanklin signal box.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2011 0:15:38 GMT
Sorry to disagree Roy but I think the shot with the box on the right is taken from the country end of the up Windsor 'main' at Clapham Junction. The box on the end of the up main at Wimbledon was a brick-built affair. It's still there too. I was about to type that the shot of the red cars was probably Micheldever but then I looked again and you are spot on with that one. You can just make out a set of (presumably) R stock in the background at the end of the shot.
According to the excellent two-part work on Standard stock that Brian Hardy did for the LURS plus his superb book 'Tube Trains On The Isle Of Wight' the conversion work was done at Acton before the cars were taken to Wimbledon by Battery Loco. They were then driven to Stewarts Lane for repainting before running trials on the main line.
As for converting cine film to video, don't go to any of the high steet shops that offer the facility. A friend of mine is in the Railway Video business and he had been offered some steam archive cine. He had viewed it agreed to purchase it but before the cine was delivered to him the owner took it to his local photographic shop to have it transferred to Video and it coam back with a scratch running the entire length of the reel.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2011 1:03:12 GMT
The red cars are indeed at Wimbledon. From the formation there are two 1925 MCCW Control Trailers sandwiching a 1923 Cammell Laird trailer. On that basis I would suggest that, with match wagons and brake, these cars must be three of those that were returned from Micheldever. All the transfers of stock from Acton to the SR (via Wimbledon) running under their own power would have had at least one motor car in the formation.
I cannot identify the location of the blue train passing the signal box on the right.
All that said, wherever you found that film - fantastic - and thank you.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2011 8:52:39 GMT
I think the shot wih the Signal box is Queenstown Road Battersea
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roythebus
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Post by roythebus on Jan 20, 2011 9:42:58 GMT
Glyn, you're right, the signalbox is indeed the up Windsor main at CJ.
The station in the early clip is probably Sandown, not Shanklin, hence the loop in the foreground for the Merstone/Newport line. The first clip is probably Sandown too, looking toward Ventnor.
Re the conversion, the stock could not have been converted to 3 rail at Acton and driven to Wimbledon, it don't work!!
No doubt others more knowledgable will add to the debate.
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Post by slugabed on Jan 20, 2011 9:47:08 GMT
The Signalbox is Clapham jct "D" box,at the Country end of plats 3 and 4 with Clapham Yard to the left,with the houses on the hill of Plough Rd visible in the background. This was my "school run" from 1976 and is VERY familiar to me...
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Post by Oracle on Jan 20, 2011 12:34:17 GMT
That site (Southernrailway films) on Youtube is a mine of fascinating videos. Check the out out for Brixton... www.youtube.com/user/SouthernRailwayFilms#p/u/22/H98D2xjBet8By the way, was the stock at Clapham (evidently running on the Down Windsor lines to me...might be ex-Stewarts Lane via is via the dive-under, heading for Point Pleasant Junction, Wimbledon and Fratton or perhaps Wimbledon Park?
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