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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2011 22:32:51 GMT
Well.. it's all pretty much there in the subject, but I wanted to avoid raising false hopes had I not put the question right there!
I've not used any signalling simulation software, but since I am specifically interested in the west side of the District line I would choose a program based on the availability of an Earl's Court model - which I presume would by nature mean controlling District and Piccadilly?
Rather than registering with a number of different application forums and asking in each I thought this might be the ideal place to check if anyone has heard of one.
It certainly seems like a very interesting area to "control" given the number of routes in and out (and even more so if High Street Ken falls into the EC area so the additional routing of Circle trains between Gloucester Road and High St impacts on movement at a virtual EC) - but maybe all of these extensive and varied workings are factors that make it particularly difficult to build the layout and logic necessary?
Many thanks in advance for info and insight about this.
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Post by Tom on Jan 4, 2011 0:04:34 GMT
One was developed by PC-Rail a few years ago for LU as a training aid - it wasn't released externally and from what I can remember it wasn't that great.
There are full size simulators using multiple touch-screen monitors for both the District & Piccadilly and Northern & Victoria Lines, which have been developed by LUL in-house.
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Post by Colin on Jan 4, 2011 15:37:55 GMT
I suspect the OP is approaching this from the angle of, say, SimSig, Signalling centre, Track Attack or other freely available programs that can be downloaded and run on a home PC.
Assuming that to be the case, the answer is a straightforward no AFAIK.
Those mentioned by Tom are strictly for internal use by LU (and/or possibly the Museum).
In fact with the sole exception of the Richmond branch (forms part of the North London line on SimSig), I don't believe any part of LU is available on any of the mainstream signal simulations. I'm happy to be corrected however....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2011 16:12:33 GMT
You can get Waterloo and City for SimSig  |
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Post by chrish on Jan 4, 2011 16:17:01 GMT
You can get Waterloo and City for SimSig And you can control the Bakerloo north of Queens Park on Wembley Suburban... but I guess that is not exactly an LU signalling sim. Good luck with this one though... its bloomin hard to keep to time! |
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Post by Colin on Jan 4, 2011 16:25:15 GMT
You can get Waterloo and City for SimSig The Waterloo & city only came under LU's wing in 1994 - the signalling was installed by British Rail so I'd question it's rights in terms of being an LU line for signal simulation purposes. Oh go on then, I'll let you have this one ;D ;D And you can control the Bakerloo north of Queens Park on Wembley Suburban... but I guess that is not exactly an LU signalling sim. Indeed - the LU aspect is a bonus in the same way as the District's Richmond branch is on the North London line. |
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jan 4, 2011 16:31:34 GMT
As said by Tom PC-Rail did do a copy for Earl's Court around 2004, from what i saw (on a home PC) it was adequate! www.pcrail.co.uk/news.php refers. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2011 18:07:44 GMT
Wow what a lot of replies in one day! I'm very grateful. I had feared this thread may be like Triangle Sidings - plenty passing by but no-one stopping any more. Dstock7080 & Tom - so now I know one exists but I can't have it! Even worse? Colin - I do apologise for not making it clear that it was a home PC type of thing I was after - but thanks for making that point. I do occasionally forget that I'm in privileged company here and not only do you get to operate actual trains, but you get better simulations too! Well it's quite a surprise because I had imagined one of the Sim Sig contributors, for instance, might have chosen to model that area from west of Lillie Bridge to just before Gloucester Road and up to High St as being potentially the most interesting part of the District Line in signalling terms, but then maybe mainline stations and junctions have a bigger national interest-base - or is it just that the diagrams, signal names/codes and other track-related information for LU are unavailable to the general public? Final thought - I'm not sure Waterloo & City would really "feel" quite like Earl's Court - but thanks all the same! |
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Post by Colin on Jan 4, 2011 19:09:05 GMT
As said by Tom PC-Rail did do a copy for Earl's Court around 2004, from what i saw (on a home PC) it was adequate! www.pcrail.co.uk/news.php refers. There's a vital clue in the very page you linked to: - Under contract from London Underground, a major simulation was completed, covering the Earl's Court area of the District Line. This is being used to assist with the training of new signal control room operators. Regretably, though, we are unable to release this to the general public.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2011 17:10:44 GMT
It's my understanding that tfl/LUL will not allow simulations of their network to be released to the public. The sections of lines covered in SimSig are all part of Network Rail except the Drain which was previously owned by BR and the signalling would have been BR installed.
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