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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2010 12:47:15 GMT
I know the station has hidden areas, but are there really intact platforms, with roundels hidden from view?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2010 12:54:35 GMT
I think there was a bay north of the eastbound platform (either that or the current eastbound was also a bay while the through was north of the current eastbound). Can't cite a source though, as it's been a while since I read it.
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Post by mrfs42 on Dec 6, 2010 13:00:48 GMT
Clicky- scroll down to the bottom of the page; plus after an astonishingly quick bit of thread archaeology: Clicky; although for various reasons the links in the linked thread are now broken with the passage of time. EDIT: plus after a bit of ferretting around in the library/this machine: c. 1931 ;D
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Post by nickf on Dec 6, 2010 13:24:08 GMT
Looking at the picture at the bottom of the page of mrfs42's first link reminds me that if you went up the stairs marked No Exit you got onto a very narrow bridge over the tracks to the other platform. IIRC the railing supports were quite spindly and far apart and you could look down onto the tracks very easily.
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Post by mrjrt on Dec 6, 2010 14:35:28 GMT
Clicky- scroll down to the bottom of the page; plus after an astonishingly quick bit of thread archaeology: Clicky; although for various reasons the links in the linked thread are now broken with the passage of time. EDIT: plus after a bit of ferretting around in the library/this machine: c. 1931 ;D I wonder why they didn't build it with the northern bay linked up to the eastbound as well as treating the central reversing bay as a westbound through line. That would have allowed termination from either direction (with the extra crossovers), not to mention giving conflict-free terminating options.
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Post by mrfs42 on Dec 6, 2010 14:49:44 GMT
Remember it was originally a terminus. I suspect that the layout pictured above was the best that could be achieved - the District was always strapped for cash IIRC.
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Post by londonstuff on Dec 6, 2010 18:35:59 GMT
Remember it was originally a terminus. I suspect that the layout pictured above was the best that could be achieved - the District was always strapped for cash IIRC. I'd love to get a quick wander round the disused platform area I believe someone posted a pic of it from a passing train a while ago.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Dec 6, 2010 18:48:41 GMT
I'd love to get a quick wander round the disused platform area I believe someone posted a pic of it from a passing train a while ago. It can't be seen from a passing train .
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Post by londonstuff on Dec 6, 2010 20:20:53 GMT
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Post by Dstock7080 on Dec 6, 2010 23:07:32 GMT
Granted, the disused crossover area can be seen but you specifically said 'platform area' which can't be seen from a train.
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Post by harlesden on Dec 6, 2010 23:52:51 GMT
Referring to the short lived Metropolitan District railway link between Mansion House and Windsor, why would four-wheel coaches have been a factor in the withdrawal of the service
These trains were not popular — possibly because of the unsuitability of using four-wheel coaches for the non-stop section between Ealing Broadway and Slough,
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Post by railtechnician on Dec 7, 2010 0:46:48 GMT
I know the station has hidden areas, but are there really intact platforms, with roundels hidden from view? Not that I recall, I had occasion to work on several comms projects at the station during the modernisation/update of the platforms. My last project there was renewing the tunnel telephone cabling from the new tunnel telephone relay room about 20 years ago, I ran several hundred metres of pyrotenax MICC through the disused platform area. The area as was shown in the image pointed to by mrfs42 is a utility/office area with corridor and main cable route to the running tunnels. Prior to that there were some rooms in the area including the old tunnel telephone relay room before the new substation was built on the other side of the tracks, it's footprint being I believe over the other disused area.
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Post by londonstuff on Dec 7, 2010 1:18:39 GMT
Granted, the disused crossover area can be seen but you specifically said 'platform area' which can't be seen from a train. Fair enough...I'll give you that one
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Post by roythebus on Dec 8, 2010 10:05:51 GMT
ISTR the old eastbound bay was taken out of use when the present Tower Hill bay was commissioned. It was certainly still visible in my days on the DR, and we used to use the centre bay for Mansion House short workings.
As MRFS says, it was built as a terminus for the DR, hence that layout. I suspect locos were changed there as well in the early days as it was later an end-on junction between the DR and MR. During their feuds in the steam era, locos may not have been allowed to run through!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2010 18:42:10 GMT
Dates for Mansion House - and Tower Hill:
5/2/67 - New station at Tower Hill opened with WB trains using what is now the bay platform. 3/9/67 - WB trains use "back" platform at Tower Hill (i.e. the present one). 21/1/68 - Tower Hill bay platform commissioned. 4/2/68 - Bay platform at Mansion House (EB side) out of use and abolished.
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Post by metman on Dec 9, 2010 1:43:00 GMT
Referring to the short lived Metropolitan District railway link between Mansion House and Windsor, why would four-wheel coaches have been a factor in the withdrawal of the service These trains were not popular — possibly because of the unsuitability of using four-wheel coaches for the non-stop section between Ealing Broadway and Slough,At any sort of speed the ride quality would have been horrific! The Met had a similar problem once the original stock began to run on the extension line leading to the construction or the Jubilee Stock and ultimately the bogie stock.
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Post by mrfs42 on Dec 9, 2010 2:10:25 GMT
At any sort of speed the ride quality would have been horrific! The Met had a similar problem once the original stock began to run on the extension line leading to the construction or the Jubilee Stock and ultimately the bogie stock. (At the risk of going horribly off-topic) I'm minded to comment that the ride quality might not have actually been that bad - there is a lot to be said for leaf springs (however, speculation on that as well as dean suspension <spit> and cleminson really belongs elsewhere) and let's face it, it wasn't all that long after the first revenue-earning bogie carriages in the UK came in on the World Famous.
Bogie carriages were still almost a novelty at this time.
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Post by phillw48 on Dec 9, 2010 9:50:33 GMT
Referring to the short lived Metropolitan District railway link between Mansion House and Windsor, why would four-wheel coaches have been a factor in the withdrawal of the service These trains were not popular — possibly because of the unsuitability of using four-wheel coaches for the non-stop section between Ealing Broadway and Slough,Having ridden on the preserved Metropolitan District coach # 100 on the K&ESR I can safely vouch that the ride is terrible, but this may be down to the fact that it runs on a former BR brake van chassis. I have ridden on other (more modern?) 4 and 6 wheel carriages and in most cases the ride was far superior.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2010 21:16:10 GMT
I remember that Wimbledon District Line platforms used to have green fingerboards showing where the next train was going - Edgware Rd, Upminster etc. The only one that wasn't green but black and white was Tower Hill - presumably because it arrived late on the scene as a terminal point?
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Post by 21146 on Dec 23, 2010 23:13:02 GMT
Some of these boards have entered the LTM collection at Acton 'depot'.
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Post by ruislip on Dec 24, 2010 7:59:52 GMT
Some of these boards have entered the LTM collection at Acton 'depot'. I guess you could also include the boards I used to see all the time on the Uxbridge branch.
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