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Post by cso on Nov 24, 2010 9:36:54 GMT
I spotted the following at Earl's Court over the weekend... Anyone know what the H OFF means - I know D is de-icer, but we couldn't work out H and why it was so prominent on the platform.
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Post by harlesden on Nov 24, 2010 10:17:51 GMT
The OFF means the associated signal is Clear and the H presumably refers to Hammersmith
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2010 10:22:32 GMT
The OFF means the associated signal is Clear and the H presumably refers to Hammersmith Would this always be the case? If not, then it cannot be so, for the sign is not a lit one; it is always displaying H OFF.
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Post by Colin on Nov 24, 2010 10:38:05 GMT
The sign is an old one that is no longer relevant - it applies to train heaters and is telling staff whether they should be on or off in the same way as 'D' boards tell staff about de-icing equipment.
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Post by harlesden on Nov 24, 2010 10:40:01 GMT
Very good point. Always happy to be corrected - and therefore learn.
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Post by cso on Nov 24, 2010 11:20:08 GMT
Cheers Colin - I suspected you might be along to give the answer...
Although, I'm not sure I like the concept of drivers being told to turn the heating off -- was there a reason?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2010 11:46:51 GMT
The sign is an old one that is no longer relevant - it applies to train heaters and is telling staff whether they should be on or off in the same way as 'D' boards tell staff about de-icing equipment. I second cso; what for?
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Post by Chris M on Nov 24, 2010 11:47:54 GMT
Heating isn't needed on a hot summer's day. Presumably there is or was some benefit to turning the heating off in situations like this.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Nov 24, 2010 12:02:40 GMT
In the same way as the 'official' leaf-fall season runs from 'X' date to 'Y' date each year so did the heating 'season'!
So, in the days of Guards a notice would appear in the Traffic Circular effectively saying Winter starts on 'this' date. Guards would then be expected to switch the train heaters ON during this period. When there were warm days during this time, 'official' notice to switch them OFF was displays using the signs.
With the advent of thermostatically controlled heaters on D Stock (and i believe refurbed C Stock) there is now no need for the signs.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2010 12:10:51 GMT
In the same way as the 'official' leaf-fall season runs from 'X' date to 'Y' date each year so did the heating 'season'! So, in the days of Guards a notice would appear in the Traffic Circular effectively saying Winter starts on 'this' date. Guards would then be expected to switch the train heaters ON during this period. When there were warm days during this time, 'official' notice to switch them OFF was displays using the signs. With the advent of thermostatically controlled heaters on D Stock (and i believe refurbed C Stock) there is now no need for the signs. Ah, OK. Thanks.
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Post by cso on Nov 24, 2010 12:13:09 GMT
Interesting, thanks Dstock7080 This is why I like the forum, you can find out all sorts of strange and wonderful insights in to how LU works etc.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2010 12:27:51 GMT
Well, since it's no longer in use; let's go "preserve" the sign... ;D
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Post by 21146 on Nov 24, 2010 16:03:55 GMT
Of course the "H-OFF" signs were double-sided with "H-ON" on the other face and were turned as appropriate.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2010 16:08:24 GMT
Of course the "H-OFF" signs were double-sided with "H-ON" on the other face and were turned as appropriate. Now why dinnae I think of that? Just when I thought I'd caught Harlesden, I find out I'm thrashed by 21146... ;D ;D Now, if they were turnable, does that also mean they are removable?
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Post by 21146 on Nov 24, 2010 16:16:14 GMT
In the same way as the 'official' leaf-fall season runs from 'X' date to 'Y' date each year so did the heating 'season'! So, in the days of Guards a notice would appear in the Traffic Circular effectively saying Winter starts on 'this' date. Guards would then be expected to switch the train heaters ON during this period. When there were warm days during this time, 'official' notice to switch them OFF was displays using the signs. With the advent of thermostatically controlled heaters on D Stock (and i believe refurbed C Stock) there is now no need for the signs. Does A Stock still have on/off heater conrols?
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Post by setttt on Nov 25, 2010 0:14:08 GMT
Does A Stock still have on/off heater conrols? Yes
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2010 11:30:02 GMT
I saw a similarly curious sign at Wembley Park on the Jubilee - R OFF.
Anyone know what this means?
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Post by Oracle on Nov 25, 2010 12:57:50 GMT
I wondered if it meant heated current rails.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2010 12:48:41 GMT
Of course the "H-OFF" signs were double-sided with "H-ON" on the other face and were turned as appropriate. Now why dinnae I think of that? Just when I thought I'd caught Harlesden, I find out I'm thrashed by 21146... ;D ;D Now, if they were turnable, does that also mean they are removable? Well, we wouldn't have to look far if they disappeared would we? ;D
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