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Post by citysig on Nov 20, 2010 20:59:57 GMT
Slightly off-topic, but when the Chesham Shuttle finishes in December not only will that spell the end of short (passenger) train operation on the branch, but also on the main as well, since Train 407 runs in service from Wembley Park to Chesham in the morning. Wonder if anyone will be able to photograph that move before the end? Guess which controller is on duty for the final 4-car transfer to and from the Chesham single. Now guess which controller is taking donations to his personal savings charity - should the target get reached, then he will organise the 4-car being locked on to the branch for the foreseeable (well I suppose until the next controller comes in and does as he's told ;D ;D ) |
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Post by citysig on Nov 20, 2010 21:01:06 GMT
Except... Units are always turned on the North Curve/Watford Triangle in pairs, aye? SO there won't be any mismatch, leading to a pair of units, both facing the same end, aye? Not always in pairs. Single 4-car units are also sent out - which of course has been witnessed just prior to the creation of this very thread ;D |
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Post by citysig on Nov 20, 2010 21:03:37 GMT
And the unit can just be sent, out of service, Neasden > Watford > one of the other branches > Neasden, turning it, aye? One of the other branches? Uxbridge branch?  ;D |
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Post by den on Nov 20, 2010 21:51:18 GMT
I think I saw one of these in service at North Harrow during the recent tube strike. It took me by surprise and meant a run halfway up the platform so that I could catch my train.
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Post by setttt on Nov 21, 2010 1:14:56 GMT
To take the question at pure face value, the answer is technically yes (no question was made about the return trip being in service as well.) The "red end" will be fully equipped for operation in passenger service. Indeed technically possible but lack of cab-to-cab comms, calling-on light and certain items of emergency equipment at the white end would preclude it. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2010 17:38:39 GMT
To take the question at pure face value, the answer is technically yes (no question was made about the return trip being in service as well.) The "red end" will be fully equipped for operation in passenger service. Indeed technically possible but lack of cab-to-cab comms, calling-on light and certain items of emergency equipment at the white end would preclude it. So the unit cannot travel red end forward if the rear cab is blue/white? |
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Post by setttt on Nov 23, 2010 22:32:38 GMT
So the unit cannot travel red end forward if the rear cab is blue/white? Yes it can; my post was in response to the query about lone single ended units operating in passenger service. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2010 4:17:19 GMT
So the unit cannot travel red end forward if the rear cab is blue/white? Yes it can; my post was in response to the query about lone single ended units operating in passenger service. So was mine... I mean, can the lone unit travel red end forwards in service? I rather suspect it's a NO... |
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Post by citysig on Nov 24, 2010 10:57:02 GMT
It's another "technical" yes.
The red end has all the equipment needed to run, and the run would have to be in one direction only, but the finer points as mentioned by met driver would make it unlikely to happen without a few extra measures taken to compensate for the lack of equipment at the other end.
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Post by Chris M on Nov 24, 2010 11:45:55 GMT
I presume these days that cab-to-cab communications could be provided by a hand-held Connect radio?
Would a portable lamp be an acceptable alternative to a calling on light?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2010 11:46:15 GMT
It's another "technical" yes. The red end has all the equipment needed to run, and the run would have to be in one direction only, but the finer points as mentioned by met driver would make it unlikely to happen without a few extra measures taken to compensate for the lack of equipment at the other end. Oh-kayy... Technically, it can be done, one-way; but in reality it won't happen unless it absolutely has to, because it's too much of a hassle? |
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Post by citysig on Nov 25, 2010 8:50:59 GMT
In reality it is very very unlikely to happen - almost to the point of saying it will never happen (but never say never of course).
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