Where did the tickets gates go?

More annoying at Euston is when a LM service arrives on the other platforms where there are no Oyster readers.

It's amazing how the flow of passengers disappears quickly now that the barriers are gone ;-)

ISTR reading an article which recalled trials of an Open Gate system.

Instead of being closed, and only opening when a ticket was swiped (this was back in '70-'71), they had it such that is was open, but slammed shut if some naughty fellow tried to slip through.

The idea was that it would allow a higher throughput.

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Proof-of-payment system? Too likely to be abused...

Unless you're making a funny comment again. ;D

Okay... That's how the trams in Sydney _{(all 7 of them)} work. You buy your ticket, board, and the conductor inspects.

It would only work if it was long-distance routes with enough time to check the whole train. I don't think LO could quite do it.

As much as I'd like to see more staff on trains, a HST-load of passengers manage to get through gates at Paddington.

Indeed. Kings Cross is being gated as part of the rebuild.

As for the paper tickets despite having a PAYG Oyster...then I guess the only way would be a set of gates on the sides a-la the wide gates we currently have. It's very much the exception to the rule that most will have either season tickets on Oyster or paper tickets.

I guess the mixing of PAYG extensions and Oyster seasons woudl rear it's head again, but I suspect TfL would prefer and encourage everyone to have Oyster seasons for their whole journey...

Gating King's Cross isn't the responsibility of the train operating company, as the station is one of Network Rail's. The big rebuild now underway will have sufficient room for gates as arriving and departing passengers will be kept separate.

Presumably Hull Trains will be treated in a similar way as Wrexham and Shropshire have been at Marylebone, being let through the gate.

I wouldn't imagine the arches would be any use whatsoever on the services you describe. In the context of Euston, I would only have the arches on the platforms that have gates now, i.e. 8-11. the intercity platforms would either remain ungated (as on-train checks are viable), or possibly...gated, or perhaps only getting arches once ITSO comes in and all tickets are contact-less electronic jobbies.

Plenty of variations on a theme in this thread and towards the end of my contribution I shall veer back on-topic by referring to Oyster!
All bar two or three of the long-distance platforms at Paddington are gated, and given the operating practice for announcing the departure platforms for those services just a short time before departure, there is usually a rush from the Lawn (concourse) to the gate line, which becomes overwhelmed by the crush. The elderly and infirm suffer as a result. I also found out, yesterday evening, that as trains have varying Off Peak ticket restrictions at around 19.00, depending on the specific ticket and destination, many tickets will not operate the gates. This further adds to the melee. There really is a major problem of acceptability when long-distance travellers, often accompanied by luggage, have to struggle thus. There is, of course a generous helping of short-distance commuters using High Speed services to and from Reading and it is not possible to check their tickets on board in the time available. It is this mix of passengers which leads to the unsatisfactory arrangement at Paddington, as there seems to be a reluctance to rely on validation by the gate line at Reading coupled with on board checks for those travelling from further out.
Now for the practicalities of ticketing for a trip to London from the far South West of England. I make this journey quite regularly and the ticket for main line travel is invariably some form of off peak or advance paper ticket from FGW. Now for London. My visits are invariably railway-related and I spend most of my time travelling within the Travelcard Zones1256. I dare not risk Oyster PAYG because in the course of a day I will spend time on platforms and travelling on LU, LOROL, DLR and the national network without ever needing to cross a gate line or pass an Oyster reader. I really cannot imagine what Oyster's software would make of my travel patterns, but I'd rather not risk it. So, it's an off-peak Travelcard for me, every time. With Senior Railcard, £5 maximum for the day with no hassles. Whilst this is ideal for me, of course TfL have to maintain all their gates so that they still accept paper tickets. If Oyster were a little more user-friendly other than for point-to-point journeys, then that would be a major step forward.

Not at bloody Liverpool Street you don't, although I blame that on NXEA being rubbish at trains, having the gates there doesn't help.

London Midland use platforms 8,10 and 11 for most of their off-peak services, with some use of platforms 7 and 12 (the off-peak xx.24 and xx.54 departures are generally booked from 7 or 12). Peak trains also use platforms 16-18 (as well as the above) and there are odd trains from the other platforms. There are too many trains running for LM to only use three platforms off-peak (arrivals and departures clump together, rather than being evenly spread out in an hour).

As you say, platform 9 is pretty much used only for London Overground.

This is how a lot of the gates worked last time I went to Moscow and Kiev. I heard someone referring to them as "The Jaws of Death" as they are a bit scary.