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Post by bicbasher on Nov 14, 2010 1:31:07 GMT
Will they ever get a refurb? Still has the 1960's style signage and does look a bit grotty compared to the more recent Shepherd's Bush refurb.
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Post by louvrerivoli on Nov 14, 2010 2:53:07 GMT
I thought I was the only one thinking how dated Holland Park looks. The station building was refurb'd during the 90s, but literally nothing has been touched at platform level besides the addition of DMIs and minor furnishings.
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Post by 21146 on Nov 14, 2010 3:06:03 GMT
I thought I was the only one thinking how dated Holland Park looks. The station building was refurb'd during the 90s, but literally nothing has been touched at platform level besides the addtion of DMIs and minor furnishings. Thank god there still a few stations left with earlier features!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2010 6:06:39 GMT
I thought I was the only one thinking how dated Holland Park looks. The station building was refurb'd during the 90s, but literally nothing has been touched at platform level besides the addition of DMIs and minor furnishings. That's good. Very good.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2010 7:48:29 GMT
All it needs is a little bit of a deep clean, but not refurbishing! It's one of the few around with the older stylings.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2010 8:19:11 GMT
All it needs is a little bit of a deep clean, but not refurbishing! It's one of the few around with the older stylings. Absolutely. Sadly, it is currently very fashionable to "modernise"...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2010 18:31:11 GMT
Holland Park along with Baker Street deep level are some of the few stations I can think of on LU that still are the same as they were in the 1990's, the old bright tungsten lighting still in place, old DMI's haven't been replaced, no stupid announcement every minute telling you when the next train is, none of those ugly help points cluttering up the platform in other words a nice station! I miss that
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2010 18:38:26 GMT
It does need a little TLC, but in the current climate, I can't see much happening about it, apart from essential maintenance. It's not one of my favourite stations, Lancaster Gate used to be so 'CLR period' before it was officially vandalised.
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Post by ruislip on Nov 14, 2010 18:43:17 GMT
As long as they keep the lifts around, I'll be happy.
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Post by londonstuff on Nov 14, 2010 19:02:41 GMT
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Post by ruislip on Nov 14, 2010 21:43:37 GMT
1) Is that the only "West Ruislip for Ickenham" reference left on the Central? 2) I know that Ealing Broadway and West Ruislip, being the ends of the line, are worthy of having larger-than-normal fonts; but what about White City and Greenford? Could it be because both these two stations were where short-working services reversed (White City still does; and I know that Greenford was an original reversing point for short working trains, instead of Northolt, during the formitive years of the West Ruislip branch)?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2010 21:45:36 GMT
I'm thinking it could be an NR reference - but I don't know the White City area well enough to assume this
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Post by ruislip on Nov 14, 2010 21:48:51 GMT
I'm thinking it could be an NR reference If that's the case, then South Ruislip and not White City should have been emphasized.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2010 21:50:48 GMT
Ealing Broadway has National Rail and District Line services, West Ruislip has National Rail services, Greenford has National Rail services and White City has a street-level interchange to Wood Lane (H&C), which is the likely reason for the bold font.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2010 21:51:16 GMT
I'm thinking it could be an NR reference If that's the case, then South Ruislip and not White City should have been emphasized. I was just going to edit my post now. I meant interchange (Hammersmith and City?) - but doesn't explain why there is none at South Ruislip.
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Post by bicbasher on Nov 14, 2010 22:00:55 GMT
Has Bethnal Green kept the dated signs or has it also had a refurb? (I haven't been east of Bank on the Central for a while)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2010 22:11:30 GMT
Likely because it's on the same Chiltern line as West Ruislip, and West Ruislip is the last possible interchange as well as being the terminus. Greenford has a terminus platform in the middle, strangely enough with the Spanish Solution, as well as being semaphore signalled!
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Post by ruislip on Nov 14, 2010 22:47:00 GMT
Greenford has a terminus platform in the middle, strangely enough with the Spanish Solution "Spanish Solution" = Arriva ? Keep in mind that I remember seeing maps like the one at Holland Park at stations like Queensway, Lancaster Gate, Marble Arch, and Bond St in the 1969-75 timeframe when I was just a mere primary school aged lad ;D
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2010 4:50:13 GMT
Spanish solution= doors open on both sides; one for boarding, one for alighting.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2010 6:14:10 GMT
I believe the Greenford bay (or rather a train in it) only opens the doors on the eastbound (central) side.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2010 7:31:43 GMT
Greenford is only for those limited services back towards Paddington. West Ruislip goes not just back to Marylebone, but out to High Wycombe where you can connect onwards to the West Midlands.
And yeah, Holland Park is a bit manky. Making over to the Central line clinic look is in order.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2010 7:56:06 GMT
And yeah, Holland Park is a bit manky. Making over to the Central line clinic look is in order. How about a historic/preserved "clinic"... ;D
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2010 12:35:40 GMT
I believe the Greenford bay (or rather a train in it) only opens the doors on the eastbound (central) side. Correct. Andy
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2010 17:28:06 GMT
They should keep the Platforms the way they are, to show a station that hasnt actualy been preserved but just left as it was, abit like Hatton Cross, more stuff from the 60's and 70's needs to be kept!
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Post by v52gc on Nov 20, 2010 21:31:46 GMT
I agree, although poor Hatton Cross got the platform frieze signs changed from the old blue with White lettering to White with blue lettering (modern style). What the point was I don't know because to me at least it looks weirder now... T123 next...
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Post by bicbasher on Dec 4, 2010 0:39:26 GMT
Has Bethnal Green kept the dated signs or has it also had a refurb? (I haven't been east of Bank on the Central for a while) To answer my own question, I went through Bethnal Green today and the platforms have a rather nice retro refurb. This is what Holland Park should get also.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2010 14:04:53 GMT
Ealing Broadway has National Rail and District Line services, West Ruislip has National Rail services, Greenford has National Rail services and White City has a street-level interchange to Wood Lane (H&C), which is the likely reason for the bold font. Picking up on Charlie's points, I think that the track plan sign at Lancaster Gate pre-dates the current Wood Lane (H&C) station by some years and isn't old enough to be able to refer to the old Wood Lane station. I think that White City is shown in capital letters because it was, and still is, a terminating point for some Central line trains. Regarding West Ruislip and South Ruislip, it's my recollection that West Ruislip used to be the main (at times, only) interchange station with BR services. I think that South Ruislip was served only by a few peak-hour trains. However, during recent years, more trains have been serving South Ruislip at the expense of West Ruislip.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2010 14:28:09 GMT
Picking up on Charlie's points, I think that the track plan sign at Lancaster Gate pre-dates the current Wood Lane (H&C) station by some years and isn't old enough to be able to refer to the old Wood Lane station. I think that White City is shown in capital letters because it was, and still is, a terminating point for some Central line trains. Derp. I forgot about Wood Lane. There is of course the Central Line depot at White City.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2010 14:44:40 GMT
Yes - I think that White City can be regarded as being an 'important' station.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2010 16:52:26 GMT
Regarding West Ruislip and South Ruislip, it's my recollection that West Ruislip used to be the main (at times, only) interchange station with BR services. I think that South Ruislip was served only by a few peak-hour trains. However, during recent years, more trains have been serving South Ruislip at the expense of West Ruislip. In Summer 1993 (Network SouthEast) it was the other way round. Off peak no down services stopped at West Ruislip between 0936 and 1613 and no up services between 0922 and 1748. There was an hourly service at South Ruislip. Currently Chiltern's half hourly off peak service to High Wycombe stops alternate half hours at South Ruislip and West Ruislip. If you know what you are doing using the Central line it is effectively half hourly at each. Over the years I have advised a number of down Chiltern passengers at South and up at West that if they use the Central line they can get to their destination half an hour earlier. Andy
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