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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2010 21:19:52 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2010 22:27:56 GMT
I like it, but does anyone know if the Astoria site will be brought back as a nightclub or shops?
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Post by ianvisits on Nov 3, 2010 16:53:26 GMT
I like it, but does anyone know if the Astoria site will be brought back as a nightclub or shops? The provisional plans by some of the developers involve shops/offices. If the Astoria's former owners wanted to, there is nothing theoretically stopping them from buying the land and developing it themselves. Judging by some of the prices they used to charge to go in, they must be sitting on a mountain of cash to pay for it. |
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Post by Ben on Nov 3, 2010 22:43:16 GMT
I dislike the design very much, it seems to have forgotten the fact that the brutalist/modernist experiment failed in this country. Too bland, not reflective of what it replaced, too 60s, too utilitarian. Why can't they employ a neoclassicist to design the buildings when they replace heritage form??
The only bit I like is that it is partially set back on the upper floors; it suggests a hint of 30s art deco styling, which the rest of the design and detail (or lack thereof...) fail to deliver.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2010 23:04:59 GMT
I dislike the design very much, it seems to have forgotten the fact that the brutalist/modernist experiment failed in this country. Au Contraire! Look at the Hayward The Royal Fest. Hall, National Theatre and Barbican complex. When Brutalist, or a post Bauhaus- Modernist architectural theme is applied and designed well, so that functionality and simplicity take precedent, beauty and purpose can merge to form those structures that are valued by many and used by a greater number. |
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Post by londonstuff on Nov 3, 2010 23:26:36 GMT
I dislike the design very much, it seems to have forgotten the fact that the brutalist/modernist experiment failed in this country. Au Contraire! Look at the Hayward The Royal Fest. Hall, National Theatre and Barbican complex. When Brutalist, or a post Bauhaus- Modernist architectural theme is applied and designed well, so that functionality and simplicity take precedent, beauty and purpose can merge to form those structures that are valued by many and used by a greater number. The whole Barbican complex is *rank*! </ends>  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2010 23:33:32 GMT
[/quote]The whole Barbican complex is *rank*! </ends> [/quote] Then we have vastly differing opinions on inner urban dwelling.  |
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Post by edwin on Nov 4, 2010 2:34:35 GMT
The design isn't brutalist. Too much glass and no visible concrete for it to be brutalist. It looks contemporary, not particularly remarkable contemporary, but contemporary nonetheless.
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Post by Ben on Nov 4, 2010 3:29:14 GMT
The Royal festival Hall and the Barbican complex are horrible!!! Carbunkle doesnt even describe them! Unless youre being sarcastic and I've been dense enough to miss it :$  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2010 7:19:11 GMT
Not one bit. I genuinely like the two designs. I wouldn't want too many pieces of architecture in any one city built in that ilk, but I do fond a real beauty in the minimalist approach, straight lines and that's not to mention the wonderfully well considered space inside! Back to topic, I think I would rather have minimalist stations with good design that allow the maximum number of people in and out with maximum ease than something more verbose but less practical. We have the very art deco stations of the Northern Line, The Modernist design at TCR tube, the tiled designs at the Vic stations to name but a few pieces of design flair. It might be suggested that we already have some of TCR CR design type in the JLE, but architecture is of a time. Seemingly now, in a period of much transport investment(JLE, ELLX CR, KXSP Northern Ticket Hall) there will be lots of examples of one design theme. I'm curious as to which artistic theme others would choose to employ... suggestions? Lastly, TCR is going to be slap bang under Centre Point. If we're considering a design that is in fitting with it's surroundings these seem quite apt. Just to counter my argument here are the design for Whitechaple CR station www.crossrail.co.uk/news/press-releases/crossrail-unveils-new-whitechapel-station-designDifferent, also modern and also beautiful. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2010 19:29:12 GMT
IMO it's different from the JLE, one or two aspects look quite similar but the JLE looks alot classier and more like a railway station whereas the new design for TCR looks like some kind of shopping mall, it dosen't look too bad but those big huge glass things outside the centre point just look ugly.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2010 21:16:34 GMT
Considering it will be near shops of Oxford Street - it is a perfect match.
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Post by edwin on Nov 7, 2010 2:50:53 GMT
IMO it's different from the JLE, one or two aspects look quite similar but the JLE looks alot classier and more like a railway station whereas the new design for TCR looks like some kind of shopping mall, it dosen't look too bad but those big huge glass things outside the centre point just look ugly. I like them. They remind me of more angular versions of the station entrances on the Bilbao Metro, and of the modern extension to the Louvre in Paris. |
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