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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2010 9:28:21 GMT
Hello all,
When I was out Tuesday I arrived at Earls Court at around 10:32. I got off at Platform 1 and watched the arrows show up to other destinations. Finally around 20 minutes later a Kenny O shuttle arrives. It sits in Platform 1 for a couple of minutes and then it's stepped up to work a Richmond service instead. (Stepping up had been going on since I arrived with various services going elsewhere than advertised)
Some minutes later someone on the PA announced the next Kenny O shuttle would be in 2 minutes on Platform 1. Fair enough. 3-4 minutes later a Wimbledon service arrives. Where's this Olympia train then! Only by chance I looked around to platform 2 at the D stock and noticed 'Olympia' on the side. So I dashed over and got on it. There was no announcement that it was coming into 2 instead!
I noticed the time was 11:05 when we left, so it took 30 minutes to finally get on a shuttle! What is the actual frequency down this line? I thought it would be around every 15 minutes?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2010 10:59:56 GMT
3tph in somewhat uneven intervals.
Could this be because of recent issues with D stock? I think Olympia service is the first thing to be cut if there is not enough trains available.
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Post by harlesden on Oct 21, 2010 13:17:19 GMT
I would never even attempt Earls Court-Olympia. I'd go to West Ken and jump on a 28 bus.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Oct 21, 2010 13:36:25 GMT
Off peak the Olympia's are booked to run a regular 20min frequency.
WB trains at Earl's Court normally depart from platform 4.
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Post by uzairjubilee on Oct 21, 2010 16:01:10 GMT
I think you've mistaken Platforms 1 and 2 with 4 and 3 respectively ;D
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2010 19:27:30 GMT
 Yes I have, platform 3 is where we left, platform 4 was where it was supposed to arrive, my bad! (Show's how much I go to London, must move and get a job on LU  ) Since it is 20 minutes interval roughly then the first was near on time...just it got stepped up so was a further 10 minutes wait. I must admit it would be nice to have dot matrix boards there so we know when the 2nd and 3rd will be arriving and where it's going to. Regards, James.
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Post by uzairjubilee on Oct 21, 2010 20:47:24 GMT
There are, but are at like either end of the platform, so if you're in the middle you can't see them. If you're coming down the stairs to the platforms then they are straight in front of you
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2010 12:33:05 GMT
There is some sort of issue with the OLY trains anyway and they don't show on either type of train indicator board until they're just outside ECT on the west.
Vigorously plagarising other peoples knowledge and work, I do believe that when Lillie Bridge comes into operation later this year or early next, then at certain times of the day, you'll get more OLY trains than you can shake a stick at.
Admittedly, this will probably be late night when trains are going to stable and nobody will want to use them, but it undoubtedly won't stop the OLY being advertised from 3tph to 12!
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Post by Dstock7080 on Oct 29, 2010 12:42:45 GMT
. . I do believe that when Lillie Bridge comes into operation later this year or early next, then at certain times of the day, you'll get more OLY trains than you can shake a stick at. Admittedly, this will probably be late night when trains are going to stable and nobody will want to use them, but it undoubtedly won't stop the OLY being advertised from 3tph to 12! From 12 December. Unfortunately, the "extra" Olympia trains early morning and late night are booked to run empty.  |
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Post by setttt on Oct 29, 2010 13:35:04 GMT
Am I right in thinking that the signalling at Olympia is such that trains to/from Lillie Bridge do not necessarily need to proceed into Olympia platform in order to access the depot/head east to Earls Court, as long as the whole train is in rear of WB28/WB7?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Oct 29, 2010 13:49:56 GMT
Am I right in thinking that the signalling at Olympia is such that trains to/from Lillie Bridge do not necessarily need to proceed into Olympia platform in order to access the depot/head east to Earls Court, as long as the whole train is in rear of WB28/WB7? You are very right, however i believe there are no stopping marks provided ! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2010 15:56:37 GMT
Am I right in thinking that the signalling at Olympia is such that trains to/from Lillie Bridge do not necessarily need to proceed into Olympia platform in order to access the depot/head east to Earls Court, as long as the whole train is in rear of WB28/WB7? You are very right, however i believe there are no stopping marks provided ! I take it you wouldn't fancy driving a bus then! |
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Post by mrfs42 on Oct 29, 2010 16:58:30 GMT
Am I right in thinking that the signalling at Olympia is such that trains to/from Lillie Bridge do not necessarily need to proceed into Olympia platform in order to access the depot/head east to Earls Court, as long as the whole train is in rear of WB28/WB7? AFAIAA the block joint between BW and BY is 50' in advance of WB7/WB28 and for WB7 to clear only requires (at the Addison Road end) BW to be clear and 8 points normal - so theoretically for a reversing move you don't actually have to go back as far as the stick unless of course you want to see the signal clear. ;D WB28 will clear (again only looking at the Addison Road end of things) if either BY or BYY are occupied with 8 and both 20s reverse - the platform at Olympia is split either side of the policeman. TC BY is 929' long... How long is a D stock in feet? EDIT:  Have there been any alterations with BJs at Olympia yet? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2010 19:28:11 GMT
Am I right in thinking that the signalling at Olympia is such that trains to/from Lillie Bridge do not necessarily need to proceed into Olympia platform in order to access the depot/head east to Earls Court, as long as the whole train is in rear of WB28/WB7? I dare say a few operators who end up doing a lot of these late stablers will soon work out where to stop, though having to walk back through the train is slower than along the platform at Olympia, so not a lot in it! Double ended battery loco's rarely go all the way to Olympia, but stop as soon as in rear of the signal. The Instruction we have been providing however does say drivers should go up to Olympia, but it isn't essential. The reason for trains detraining at Earls Court (or at Hammersmith for those entering Lillie Bridge from West Kensington) is because these movements will be late at night and assistance is more readilly available at the detrain locations in the event of "issues" getting someone off the train. I believe the dot matrix indicators will reflect this for the relevant TD codes in the signalling system. Trains diverting to stable at Lillie Bridge due to "operational problems" other than dead late will detrain at Olympia or West Kensington as one may expect (subject to variation upon the Controller's Instructions)! |
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Yes I have, platform 3 is where we left, platform 4 was where it was supposed to arrive, my bad!
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Have there been any alterations with BJs at Olympia yet?
