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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2010 17:29:52 GMT
Suprised it hasn't been mentioned - C stock uses destination blinds whereas the D stock uses LED displays on the front. Orange LEDs to be specific. The destination blinds on a C stock uses day-glo green text.
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Post by setttt on Oct 14, 2010 21:08:15 GMT
Cheers for that. What's the reasoning behind the "access to car prohibited" notice? As the door is open, it appears someone has either accessed or alighted the car by that means. Presumably it is considered unsafe to climb on the coupler to gain access - it's higher up than the photo would have you believe. The door is more likely open because the person who uncoupled the units would have crossed from one to the other to operate the coupler switch.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2010 6:02:32 GMT
Suprised it hasn't been mentioned - C stock uses destination blinds whereas the D stock uses LED displays on the front. Orange LEDs to be specific. The destination blinds on a C stock uses day-glo green text. Whoops. I actually did think of that, but it's kinda obscure... The doors are still the biggest giveaway... Can't point to a D' and say, "there, that pretty one"; or point to a C' and say, "that fat ugly one over there"; and/or point to an A' and say "that old geezer"... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D S' will be easier, "the ones with the doors on the outside".
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Post by Phil on Oct 15, 2010 8:17:21 GMT
S' will be easier, "the ones with the doors on the outside". Really?? Say that at Finchley Road or Wembley Park and they'll all head straight for the Jubbly which has had outside doors for over a decade.
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Post by Colin on Oct 15, 2010 9:15:00 GMT
On top of that, given the original scenario of Earls court and the difference between a Gloucester Road bound service and a High Street bound service; with everything run by S stock.....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2010 12:42:35 GMT
S' will be easier, "the ones with the doors on the outside". Really?? Say that at Finchley Road or Wembley Park and they'll all head straight for the Jubbly which has had outside doors for over a decade. At Finchley road you can say "big and small", failing that - "accordion trains"!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2010 12:53:02 GMT
Hm, didn't think about that. Actually, it will be harder with S'... now that I've actually given a shred of thought to it...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2010 13:21:14 GMT
Hm, didn't think about that. Actually, it will be harder with S'... now that I've actually given a shred of thought to it... Well, people can cope with similiar issues at Aldgate East (two different types at most times), High Street Ken, Liverpool Street and also Edgware Road before they Hammersmithed the Circle. Why should it be so hard at Earl's Court?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2010 13:42:05 GMT
Cos they're all Districts.
Can the Wimbleware be branded separately, but operationally still tied to the District or summat?
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Post by Colin on Oct 15, 2010 14:31:05 GMT
No - the whole point of S stock, in the case of S7's, is that they will be fully interchangeable on the Circle, H&C and District lines.
Earls Court is something of a pain because it is surround by a lot of hotels and thus has a very high proportion of foreigners passing though it - on top of that the pocket maps tend to confuse them into thinking that the Circle line also serves Earls Court which of course it doesn't.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2010 14:50:28 GMT
No - the whole point of S stock, in the case of S7's, is that they will be fully interchangeable on the Circle, H&C and District lines. Earls Court is something of a pain because it is surround by a lot of hotels and thus has a very high proportion of foreigners passing though it - on top of that the pocket maps tend to confuse them into thinking that the Circle line also serves Earls Court which of course it doesn't. OH right... I didn't think through it again...
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Post by Chris M on Oct 15, 2010 15:46:21 GMT
The Hammersmith and City and Circle Lines are branded separately but are tied together operationally and use the same set of trains. Presumably they will also remain separately identified when operated by S7s. This suggests that it would be possible to identify the Wimbledon-Edgware Road service differently at stations/on maps to the rest of the District Line and still operate it with District Line trains, drivers, managers, etc. The change would obviously not be without cost,as all the following would need updating: - maps
- in-car diagrams
- station signage
- automated audio announcements (on trains and on stations)
- website (including journey planner, contact forms, etc)
- Dot Matrix Indicators (I have no idea if this would just be changing what is displayed to the public when the system receives a given description from the signalling system or whether it would require more than this?)
There are probably things I've not thought about as well. Then there would be design and promotional costs associated with the change.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2010 15:51:42 GMT
So it seems doable to create a Wimbleware line, so far.
Intriguing...
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Post by Colin on Oct 15, 2010 16:16:33 GMT
However it won't happen.
Can I politely suggest that if you wish to continue down this road, you either start a new thread in the Railway Idea's and Proposals board or dig out the previous thread that we've already had on the subject..
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2010 20:00:34 GMT
However it won't happen. Can I politely suggest that if you wish to continue down this road, you either start a new thread in the Railway Idea's and Proposals board or dig out the previous thread that we've already had on the subject.. Indeed. But we've all had fun - and Paddington (Praed Street) continues to claim to belong to the Metropolitan Railway
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Post by rdm on Oct 16, 2010 13:46:30 GMT
Sorry for late comment on this - have been off line for a while.
The original post reminds me of a similar problem many many years ago at Gunnersbury on the Eastbound, in the days when the unpainted "R" stocks had just appeared. A passenger had asked which train to catch for Victoria and had been advised to take a "red" train, but not a "green" one (as the NLL trains then were). About twenty minutes later and after at least two DRs had called, the passenger was seen still to be on the platform, and on being asked why, replied that he had seen ony green and "silver" trains! (It transpired that the only two unpainted "R"s were following each other in service from Richmond that day. There's nothing new in this world!!!
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Post by metman on Oct 16, 2010 18:10:24 GMT
How very unlucky!
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