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Post by harlesden on Sept 24, 2010 11:50:32 GMT
Just wondered whose idea it was to continually broadcast classical music on stations at the north end of the Piccadilly Line and when it started. I would have thought the genre might be more suited to the north end of the Met.
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Post by Chris M on Sept 24, 2010 12:51:51 GMT
I don't know for certain, but I think the idea is to deter loitering by groups of young people who are (rightly or wrongly) seen as being less likely to congregate in aggressive or intimidating groups in areas where such music is played. It isn't restricted to the north end of the Piccadilly either, the public toilets at Walthamstow Central bus station also play music (it's slightly surreal to be doing one's business while listening to a chamber orchestra!). I believe the idea originated (or at least first public transport application of the idea in this country) was on the Tyne and Wear Metro a few years ago.
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Post by jimini on Sept 24, 2010 14:14:43 GMT
Something in the back of my mind tells me that it was first trialled (in Greater London) at West Croydon bus station a few years back. It's now also used on the southern end of the Northern Line. The idea is indeed to deter the yoof [sic] of today from hanging around and generally causing a nuisance.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2010 16:09:17 GMT
They have been playing classical music at Upminster Bridge for several years.
I remember reading somewhere it was to deter the Yoofs from hanging around. If it is a nice piece of music I have been known to loiter for a few minutes myself.
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Post by slugabed on Sept 24, 2010 18:25:33 GMT
I first noticed it at Vauxhall in about 2007,and there was something in the media about it having a calming effect....
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Post by mileendfan on Sept 24, 2010 21:54:53 GMT
The same system is used outside a CoOp supermarket down here in Plymouth. It's supposed to help disperse young loiterers.
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Post by vato on Sept 24, 2010 22:38:37 GMT
Not having visited any of these locations, I'll almost lay a wager that by "classical" it would be typical Classic FM snippets.
/me has a prediliction for C20th classical music that is rarely catered for in such contexts - I'd rather get "The Girl From Ipanema" on a borked Hammond organ than some of the c**p they dole out as "classical".
And no, the north end of the Met is mercifully silent, other than the announcements that a good service is running on all other lines.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2010 23:32:51 GMT
Not having visited any of these locations, I'll almost lay a wager that by "classical" it would be typical Classic FM snippets. /me has a prediliction for C20th classical music that is rarely catered for in such contexts - I'd rather get "The Girl From Ipanema" on a borked Hammond organ than some of the rubbish they dole out as "classical". And no, the north end of the Met is mercifully silent, other than the announcements that a good service is running on all other lines. Not true, the waiting room at Chalfont is often playing classical music!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2010 21:09:35 GMT
The same system is used outside a CoOp supermarket down here in Plymouth. It's supposed to help disperse young loiterers. Hugh and the bus station. But but doesn't work.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2010 3:08:09 GMT
Also played at Hammersmith bus station. Not sure how well it works, but I quite like it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2010 9:09:18 GMT
Not having visited any of these locations, I'll almost lay a wager that by "classical" it would be typical Classic FM snippets. /me has a prediliction for C20th classical music that is rarely catered for in such contexts - I'd rather get "The Girl From Ipanema" on a borked Hammond organ than some of the c**p they dole out as "classical". And no, the north end of the Met is mercifully silent, other than the announcements that a good service is running on all other lines. From memory - and bearing in mind I stopped working on stations two and a half years ago, so this is what *was* played then, not necessarily what *is* played now - the pieces that stuck in my mind were the Sleeping Beauty waltz, Jerusalem(!), maybe the Blue Danube Waltz and something from the Nutcracker, possibly the Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy, although another part of me doubts that one (perhaps I was just thinking too much about Fruit & Nut chocolate while at work.. although I don't like it much!). There were certainly other bits that I recognised and may have been able to name at the time, but they've long since slipped my mind. I want to say Ride of the Valkyries but that's been in my head a lot recently so I may be getting muddled..! We did have some positive comments from passengers, and I remember for a while at Turnpike Lane there being a cutout of a text to thelondonpaper saying something like "Classical music at Turnpike Lane? Great idea!". Reactions from staff were rather more mixed, but then the playlist seemed fixed so it did get repetitive, and was probably worse if you were permanently at a station, rather than a reserve as I was. But I have to admit I did quite like it, it helped to pass the time a bit, and sometimes I'd be a little annoyed if a service announcement interrupted a bit I particularly liked. *g*
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Post by londonstuff on Sept 26, 2010 10:29:36 GMT
I remember when coming to London looking for a job I went for a look at a place near Turnham Green. Having no idea of what different areas of London were like, I exited the station and an enormous flower stand was playing one of Mozart's clarinet concertos - I knew then it'd be an okay area to work in! Not having visited any of these locations, I'll almost lay a wager that by "classical" it would be typical Classic FM snippets. /me has a prediliction for C20th classical music that is rarely catered for in such contexts - I'd rather get "The Girl From Ipanema" on a borked Hammond organ than some of the c**p they dole out as "classical". And no, the north end of the Met is mercifully silent, other than the announcements that a good service is running on all other lines. From memory - and bearing in mind I stopped working on stations two and a half years ago, so this is what *was* played then, not necessarily what *is* played now - the pieces that stuck in my mind were the Sleeping Beauty waltz, Jerusalem(!), maybe the Blue Danube Waltz and something from the Nutcracker, possibly the Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy, although another part of me doubts that one (perhaps I was just thinking too much about Fruit & Nut chocolate while at work.. although I don't like it much!). There were certainly other bits that I recognised and may have been able to name at the time, but they've long since slipped my mind. I want to say Ride of the Valkyries but that's been in my head a lot recently so I may be getting muddled..! We did have some positive comments from passengers, and I remember for a while at Turnpike Lane there being a cutout of a text to thelondonpaper saying something like "Classical music at Turnpike Lane? Great idea!". Reactions from staff were rather more mixed, but then the playlist seemed fixed so it did get repetitive, and was probably worse if you were permanently at a station, rather than a reserve as I was. But I have to admit I did quite like it, it helped to pass the time a bit, and sometimes I'd be a little annoyed if a service announcement interrupted a bit I particularly liked. *g*
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2010 9:17:47 GMT
I entered Rayners Lane recently one evening to discover some harp stringed tune blaring away... I could hardly hear what the guy on the gateline said when my Oyster pass turned up a code 70.
And too at Harrow bus station, well the courtyard outside Harrow on the Hill station... wasn't working here!
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Post by auxsetreq on Oct 4, 2010 13:42:11 GMT
This is nothing new. It was tried back sometime in the 80's at TCR. Light easy listening stuff coming out over the tannoy all over the booking hall and stairs up to street level. Sounded as one would expect - like a naughty word made out of the letters *this* - *Nights in White Satin* & *Tuesday Afternoon* both from the Moodies were some of the ditties. Didn't quite work...............
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2010 13:56:53 GMT
This is nothing new. It was tried back sometime in the 80's at TCR. Light easy listening stuff coming out over the tannoy all over the booking hall and stairs up to street level. Sounded as one would expect - like a naughty word made out of the letters *this* - *Nights in White Satin* & *Tuesday Afternoon* both from the Moodies were some of the ditties. Didn't quite work............... The problem with music is that nobody will ever get a tune fully agreed on. I believe these failed experiments are the cause of the rivers of PAs. ;D ;D
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Post by Colin on Oct 5, 2010 2:32:37 GMT
The problem with music is that nobody will ever get a tune fully agreed on. I believe these failed experiments are the cause of the rivers of PAs. ;D ;D Who said the music used on LU is a problem or a failure? As stated correctly above, it's used to deter the younger element from loitering in groups and making a general nuisance of themselves - if they don't like the choice of music, well that's the whole point!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2010 12:58:45 GMT
The problem with music is that nobody will ever get a tune fully agreed on. I believe these failed experiments are the cause of the rivers of PAs. ;D ;D Who said the music used on LU is a problem or a failure? As stated correctly above, it's used to deter the younger element from loitering in groups and making a general nuisance of themselves - if they don't like the choice of music, well that's the whole point!! Wait they didn't fail . Sorry
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