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Post by 21146 on Sept 18, 2010 2:12:12 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2010 7:47:44 GMT
Did you happen to phone the Picc SC last night 21146?
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Post by 21146 on Sept 18, 2010 12:13:31 GMT
Did you happen to phone the Picc SC last night 21146? That's quite possible, just to check it was all going ahead as per Engineering Notice. |
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Post by trc666 on Sept 19, 2010 10:06:44 GMT
Just got back from the LTM, got a ticket for the 09:30 tour on Friday, there are about 35 tickets left as of 10:30 this morning. Saturday and Sunday are completely sold out.
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Post by su31 on Sept 19, 2010 21:22:48 GMT
For any staff on here, there is a chance to win tickets for Thursday night... look on Source - TfL intranet (link from LU intranet)...
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Post by 21146 on Sept 21, 2010 20:46:52 GMT
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Post by harlesden on Sept 21, 2010 21:57:00 GMT
My first time seeing a Tooting Broadway train at Holborn WB
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Post by mrfs42 on Sept 22, 2010 0:08:37 GMT
My first time seeing a Tooting Broadway train at Holborn WB (sailing under a heavy wind) in the bad old days (for about three months) you *could* set up some Northern Line descriptions on the Picc - remember KX (Picc) is the only 'V' frame with full covers and intended (albeit briefly) to be worked by a bobby. ISTR that the only possible descriptions that could be set up were NB advisory ['L' worked to 'J' IYSWIM] - full TD apparatus was provided EB/WB on the Picc. Hmm..... *thinks* |
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Post by 21146 on Sept 22, 2010 23:53:38 GMT
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Post by mrfs42 on Sept 23, 2010 0:26:37 GMT
Oo. That's mean. I'll have to look through my WTTs to find if there was ever an occasion when you could run non-stop in that fashion with 38 stock. I've seen the notices for the 'theatre train'; and I think I've got a copy somewhere.... Jolly good wheeze anyway! |
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Post by phillw48 on Sept 23, 2010 8:36:16 GMT
There was an item on BBC breakfast news this morning about the event, it is more concerned with the use of the tube as air raid shelters. Apparently it took 15 days to place the 1938TS train in the platform!
P.S. All sold out.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2010 10:35:45 GMT
There was an item on BBC breakfast news this morning about the event, it is more concerned with the use of the tube as air raid shelters. Apparently it took 15 days to place the 1938TS train in the platform! P.S. All sold out. Well it only arrived on Monday night/ Tuesday morning! |
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Post by londonstuff on Sept 23, 2010 12:31:00 GMT
The BBC article is hereLook forward to seeing anyone from here there at 9.30am bright and early tomorrow morning. [/yawns] |
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Post by mrfs42 on Sept 23, 2010 13:23:09 GMT
Interesting - I've got a document dated 29th September 193 8, where the tube stations were intended to be used as air raid shelters from the very beginning. I really must get on with writing the air raid precautions for zeppelins article. |
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Post by rincew1nd on Sept 23, 2010 20:46:50 GMT
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Post by rincew1nd on Sept 23, 2010 21:05:05 GMT
btw, the Today Programme segment is currently available here |
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Post by norbitonflyer on Sept 24, 2010 7:49:21 GMT
btw, the Today Programme segment is currently available hereInteresting comment from the curator that the train exhibited was the very type of train that ran through this station during the Blitz. Wrong on so many levels. 1. Aldwych was suspended throughout the Blitz. 2. 1938 stock did not appear on the Picadilly until after the war. 3. The Shuttle was never worked by 1938 stock, indeed it was still using converted gate stock well into the 1950s. 4. Only one train has ever run through Aldwych station (in 1955): it didn't get far! |
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Post by 21146 on Sept 24, 2010 13:10:02 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2010 13:24:48 GMT
btw, the Today Programme segment is currently available hereInteresting comment from the curator that the train exhibited was the very type of train that ran through this station during the Blitz. Wrong on so many levels. 1. Aldwych was suspended throughout the Blitz. 2. 1938 stock did not appear on the Picadilly until after the war. 3. The Shuttle was never worked by 1938 stock, indeed it was still using converted gate stock well into the 1950s. 4. Only one train has ever run through Aldwych station (in 1955): it didn't get far! What a fail.  |
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Post by trc666 on Sept 24, 2010 13:55:30 GMT
Was anyone here on the 9:30 tour this morning? I was the one hobbling down the stairs with me plaster.  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2010 15:52:37 GMT
Accurate or not, that 38ts looks superb whereever it goes! If only I hadn't been working this weekend!
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Post by Chris W on Sept 24, 2010 15:54:49 GMT
I'll be there this evening.... at 6:30pm with wifey (Mel).
You'll easily spot me... I'll be taking tons of pics and if you're still not sure who I am look for someone close by rolling her eyes ;D ;D ;D
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Post by ianvisits on Sept 24, 2010 17:59:38 GMT
Twas much fun.
I suspect tube geeks hoping for a good look around the station will be disappointed as the speed of the events, dim lighting and size of the crowd make it a bit difficult for those in-depth inspections of every nook and cranny that only tube geeks seem capable of.
However, this is an event packed full of atmospherics, and is Jolly Good Fun.
Worth the visit.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2010 21:30:42 GMT
Indeed, it was a good show from a general interest point of view.
We were shepherded around the station and between the cars of thee 38TS though, so didn't get much chance to stop and look around, or even wait for a gap to take photos.
There was also no chance to view the disused platform.
Hopefully the fact that this event sold out might encourage LU and the LT Museum to hold some more, maybe aimed at more at the enthusiast.
(P.S. we were told that if the fire alarm went off while we were below ground, the evacuation route would be through the tunnel to Holborn. I'm sure I wasn't the only one secrectly hoping for a false alarm.)
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Post by Chris W on Sept 24, 2010 23:42:31 GMT
What a fantastic hour spent underground... I won't spoil it for anyone who hasn't been yet, but the main ticket hall and every car of the 38ts unit became a stage. Wonderful wonderful stuff and educational to boot  Well done to LU & the LT Museum... lets have more of the same please - thank you to all who gave their time to put this together as well as the actors who helped to get the message across of how Londoners coped with the bombings Not the easiest environment to capture images due to the low lighting, but I had a go. Some are blurred due to the long exposure settings, but I kept them as there are some interesting shapes that give an unusual eeriness - I've uploaded 71 photos to my Fotopic site. Images commence with a wartime RT bus* that waited outside the station exit in Surrey Street. * No doubt bus enthusiasts will correct me ;D   |
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Post by harlesden on Sept 25, 2010 0:39:59 GMT
RT8 was a very early RT (built between September 1939 and May 1940) with the route number displayed in a rooftop box. It would have initially suffered braking problems due to the use of hastily sourced British compressors as a result of the unavailability of (German) Bosch compressors. For this reason, it would have been removed from service until a solution was found, a reciprocating pump belt-driven from the gearbox, which supplied enough compressed air to keep everything working, and the buses were modified.
I believe garages in Putney were the first to receive RT's, working routes 14, 28, 30, 37 and 72.
On RT's produced post war, the roof top box was abandoned and the destination above the via points was repositioned below. Despite the fact that the prototype RT1 was the only genuine prewar RT, kids in the 50's would squeal with delight "It's a prewar" when they saw a bus with the rooftop box.
RT8 has actually been to the USA (St. Louis) but was brought back for the Ensignbus Museum
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Post by phillw48 on Sept 25, 2010 8:24:28 GMT
The earlier post war RT's also had the roof box. The distinguishing features of the pre war RT is the curved bottom to the windscreen and a second roof box at the rear. There were several other differences mostly under the skin.
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Post by harlesden on Sept 25, 2010 10:13:35 GMT
Thanks phillw48 for the correction and additional info.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2010 10:03:22 GMT
I loved the experience - very impressed by the actors and the whole event.
I did find flashes of light in the end a bit unbelievable though - surely only the sound and the vibrations were felt underground?
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Post by londonstuff on Sept 26, 2010 10:36:23 GMT
I went yesterday and really thought it was very good. Like ianvisits said, not much photography time or any chance at all to photograph the station, you were pretty much let throughout the whole experience and then shepherded out.
One point to note is that I was asked not to take a photograph of the lit tunnel towards Holborn. Not quite sure why - the woman said that taking a photo of the tunnel in the other direction was fine.
Hopefully the sold out nature of the event will convince the LTM that there's a fair amount of money to be made out of subterranean heritage.
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