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Post by malcolmffc on Jul 20, 2010 6:00:05 GMT
Is there ever likely to be a prospect of extending the ELL New Cross branch? It really will be an isolated stub once ELLX2 opens, and would be far more useful if it went as far as e.g. Lewisham. Or will capacity restrictions and the need to reverse trains there forbid this forever?
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Post by mcmaddog on Jul 20, 2010 8:08:38 GMT
Surely they'll close it when ELLX2 opens? It's such a waste of capacity already, the New Cross trains I've seen seem near empty.
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Post by andypurk on Jul 20, 2010 10:03:07 GMT
Surely they'll close it when ELLX2 opens? It's such a waste of capacity already, the New Cross trains I've seen seem near empty. I don't think it is a waste of capacity. The core ELL section can't send more than four trains per hour down each of branches which pass onto Network Rail (the West Croydon, Crystal Palace with Clapham Junction to follow), the New Cross branch allows more trains to be run through the Surrey Quays to Dalston section, without being disrupted when there are delays south of Surrey Quays. |
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Post by twa on Jul 29, 2010 11:49:27 GMT
One possibility would be to run trains down to Hayes (which i believe is the end of the line) through Clockhouse etc.
Also i belive that there is a feasibility study of extending the Bakerloo down to Hayes with a new station on the Old Kent Road, New Cross interchage and then running down to Hates
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Post by harlesden on Jul 29, 2010 13:15:03 GMT
I think we've been to Hayes already I don't know the Hayes line well, is there the capacity to add the current 4tph to New Cross to Hayes which currently has 2tph to Charing Cross and 2tph to Cannon Street or would at least one line have to go? Also would you run the line straight to Ladywell or via Lewisham? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2010 13:28:23 GMT
Keep in mind also that the New Cross branch provides a useful outlet for reversing trains that are behind schedule; if a train is heavily delayed northbound ex-Croydon, ex-Crystal Palace (or ex-Clapham Junction, when that opens), then it can be reversed at Dalston Junction, then again at New Cross to resume right working. Likewise, it provides a useful outlet in case of a southbound blockage onto the New Cross Gate (or Clapham Junction) branches, allowing services through the core section to Dalston Junction (and later, Highbury) to be maintained.
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