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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2010 19:47:23 GMT
Although this station closed to passengers in 1939, it survived for goods traffic until 1964 with goods trains using the Northern Line northwards from Park Junction.
It is said that the station buildings at Edgware L.N.E.R. were demolished because of the construction of the nearby office block "Green Shield House" (of Green Shield Stamps fame - remember them?).
What I can't establish is whether the station buildings went before the end of goods services, or after.
Any help would be much appreciated.
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Post by harlesden on Jul 19, 2010 20:07:15 GMT
As far as I know, services ceased in 1964 with track and buildings removed within the following 12 months. As always, happy to be corrected.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2010 21:23:22 GMT
Many thanks.
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Post by Oracle on Jul 19, 2010 22:07:11 GMT
There is an excellent history on the extensions in UNDERGROUND issue 9.. I wish I could get LURS permission to scan the pages and stick them online. There are some excellent photos and drawings in there: it was arguably the best issue that I Edited.
I am upstairs from my own copy so cannot check but I am sure that the M1 extension cut through the line.
However, because of copyright issues, etc., I regret that I cannot reproduce any pages of any issues, so apologise for the suggestion.
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Post by slugabed on Jul 19, 2010 22:42:07 GMT
There is an excellent history on the extensions in UNDERGROUND issue 10. I wish I could get LURS permission to scan the pages and stick them online. There are some excellent photos and drawings in there: it was arguably the best issue that I Edited. I am upstairs from my own copy so cannot check but I am sure that the M1 extension cut through the line but will provide chapter & verse tomorrow. I agree with you that it is fine and informative issue.....but it is UndergrounD No.9. The M1 Extension (Hendon Urban Motorway) had two effects upon the Northern Line.Firstly.it obliterated the tunnel portals previously visible as part of the Bushey Heath extension. Secondly,the slip roads to the original Soutnern terminal junction of the Motorway (now Junction 2) swept very close to the alignment of the railway between Mill Hill East and Mill Hill (The Hale) but I don't think it impinged upon or obliterated it (I am ready to be corrected).When the Motorway was further extended to the North Circular,these slip roads were,in turn,abandoned,but are still discernable to the obseravnt driver on the Southbound M1,and Bunns Lane. **Edit** Just had a thought.The earlier stage of the M1 would hve crossed the branch just south of Mill Hill Broadway (Midland)....did they leave a bridge for the railwy alignment? The 5/- A-Z shows both M1 and the railway (complete with closed Mill Hill (The Hale) station),but this doesn't constitute proof of very much.I'll have to go up there one day and have a shufty.**Edit**
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Post by ruislip on Jul 19, 2010 23:30:01 GMT
It is said that the station buildings at Edgware L.N.E.R. were demolished because of the construction of the nearby office block "Green Shield House" (of Green Shield Stamps fame - remember them?). Yes; I remember you could get them at filling stations (Esso being the most common one).
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Post by Oracle on Jul 19, 2010 23:41:44 GMT
I am sure that I saw a reference to the branch in an edition of the TV news programme NATIONWIDE. I got the impression that there was a suggestion that it was restored. I suppose it could have been done by burrowing under the motorway then. Hope that the Mods will allow a brief OTT foray: Green Shield stamps! Memories! Quadruple and Quintruple stamps at petrol stations and shops...I worked from 1971 for a time for Heron garages owned by Gerald Ronson in west London at various locations and drivers seemed to want their stamps more than their fuel! One family was in the news as they saved up enough with family support to buy a Ford Cortina Mk II. I am sure that I am right that the chap who invented Green Shield turned his empire into Argos, and that included the GS stores. True: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Shield_Stamps
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2010 13:28:22 GMT
Per your wiki reference - I remember S&H Green Stamps here is the US years ago. And its competitor - Top Value Yellow Stamps. As kids we had to sit around filling those d@mm books up via licking (yuchh) or using a sponge. All for some small appliances and so on for the parents - never toys! Very briefly semi-off topic. In Ohio we also had, around the same time, the dreaded "tax stamps": www.oocities.com/tbtho/taxstamps.htm
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2010 16:13:08 GMT
The Edgware goods depot buildings were certainly still there behind Green Shield House in the 1970s and early 1980s. They would have been demolished when the Broadwalk shopping centre and car park were built.
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Post by slugabed on Jul 20, 2010 17:11:37 GMT
The Edgware goods depot buildings were certainly still there behind Green Shield House in the 1970s and early 1980s. They would have been demolished when the Broadwalk shopping centre and car park were built. There were railway-type buildings and trackbed behind the bus-park/turning area,and this was (I seem to remember) accessed via what looked like the old goods-yard entrance. This was around the time when the 140 still had RTs so would have been ?1978?. As Stonesfan says,this was all swept away when the Shopping Centre was built.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2010 18:23:50 GMT
I know it's not relevant to the thread but my memory of Green Shield stamps was, as a boy, being the one who was given the task of licking them and sticking them in the albums before the trip to Gosport to the Green Shield shop to see what we could use them for. My reward for this never made up for that god-awful taste!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2010 18:36:28 GMT
Secondly,the slip roads to the original Soutnern terminal junction of the Motorway (now Junction 2) swept very close to the alignment of the railway between Mill Hill East and Mill Hill (The Hale) but I don't think it impinged upon or obliterated it (I am ready to be corrected).When the Motorway was further extended to the North Circular,these slip roads were,in turn,abandoned,but are still discernable to the obseravnt driver on the Southbound M1,and Bunns Lane. The original southbound slip actually followed, and still does although out of use the trackbed of the line, using the original bridge to pass under the A1, before curving south away from the trackbed to join the southbound A1. I belive the motorway works completly obliterated the trackbed on the east side of the Midland as the trackbed headed briefly northwards after crossing Bunns Lane before turning under the Midland and continuing it's route westward to Edgware. EDIT: I have looked over the 1913 and 1935 large scale OS maps and comparing it with the google earth views, the sliproad only used the bridge under the A1 and the line ran northerly and parrallel to Bunns Lane. It then passed under Bunns Lane after the kane turned westward passing through what is now occupied by a WHSmiths unit and then passing under the Midland by means of a skew bridge. The Hale station was between the Midland and the next bridge under Bunns Lane.
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