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Post by cso on Jun 15, 2010 19:01:16 GMT
Saw this on twitter from @anniemole earlier but hadn't seen it mentioned here... Telegraph Article: www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/7830412/London-transport-data-opened-to-app-developers.htmlYou can now find all sorts of useful information and data about London Transport from the site linked in the article; including some stuff which appears to come from TrackerNet (meaning application developers can develop better departure boards than TFLs hopefully!) and information on SPADs that have happened this year. I look forward to finding a use for it...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2010 10:12:04 GMT
I've been following the TfL data feed saga for a while, as far as I can tell, there is no data from TrackerNet being published other than in the form of their own departure boards... Edit: My apologies, they have rather tucked it away... data.london.gov.uk/apibeta
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2010 10:25:45 GMT
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Post by cso on Jun 16, 2010 11:00:55 GMT
I'm sure the different codes (I assume S means train no., and D is destination number) are explained somewhere, but I have problems finding it. It's linked on data.london.gov.uk/apibeta as the Trackernet User Guide
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2010 11:05:29 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2010 11:16:14 GMT
I just found out using the Feed=4 (unlike feed=5 on that you sent, edgemaster), you can skip the StationCode part (on the Bakerloo atleast), that loads a pretty big page if you also set the time parameter to 60.
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Post by cso on Jun 21, 2010 9:54:48 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2010 17:19:41 GMT
Not me, unfortunately, but I was aware of Matthew's previous work with the live mapping of National Rail services. I'm glad he's been able to get this working quickly, it is quite impressive to see the whole network!
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Post by citysig on Jun 21, 2010 19:36:18 GMT
Very impressive.
I notice that anything running on the Circle - including the District side - is shown as a "Hammersmith &Circle." There was also a District Line train 000 travelling at roughly 200mph between Earl's Court and Wimbledon and back when I looked earlier. Obviously a new service the Green Line has failed to publicise ;D
I can certainly see the benefits of having an app similar to this on your mobile - especially if you're waiting for a train on an open-section platform. However, I dread the day when such information is stored and replayed following disruption and people begin to criticise the way in which we have handled the service. Our own management do that already. They are experts in hindsight - taking maybe only 2 weeks to come up with an alternative to the decision I had to make within 30 seconds on the day.
It's when I think of drawbacks such as this that I then wonder if we're revealing a little too much. But then, the world is changing...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2010 23:52:45 GMT
I'm impressed at LU's recent extension of the Metropolitan Line. Looking forward to trying it soon.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2010 0:26:28 GMT
I'm impressed at LU's recent extension of the Metropolitan Line. Looking forward to trying it soon. Maybe the London Metro(politan) and the Paris Metro are finally merging? But central France to Moor Park in 30 secounds? No way.
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Post by cso on Jun 22, 2010 9:15:32 GMT
However, I dread the day when such information is stored and replayed following disruption and people begin to criticise the way in which we have handled the service. Our own management do that already. They are experts in hindsight - taking maybe only 2 weeks to come up with an alternative to the decision I had to make within 30 seconds on the day. To use it to criticise, I don't agree with... but from a management perspective, storing the data and being able to replay it back is a good thing... It enables you to review it, discuss it with colleagues and in new and interesting issues, possibly develop plans if it happens again, surely? It's when I think of drawbacks such as this that I then wonder if we're revealing a little too much. But then, the world is changing... Your (job, not personally) decisions are already publicly facing (de-training that train at harrow, converting that H&C to a circle etc.) then this is just another view of it? People are going to criticise anyway?
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Post by citysig on Jun 22, 2010 14:32:46 GMT
To use it to criticise, I don't agree with... but from a management perspective, storing the data and being able to replay it back is a good thing... It enables you to review it, discuss it with colleagues and in new and interesting issues, possibly develop plans if it happens again, surely? Management already have this facility on Trackernet, and can replay any event up to 28 days in the past. Plus with virtually everything recorded anyway, a full record is always at hand to those who may need it. Your (job, not personally) decisions are already publicly facing (de-training that train at harrow, converting that H&C to a circle etc.) then this is just another view of it? People are going to criticise anyway? It's one thing to turf a trainload of people out at Harrow, but another to be judged for that decision by those who think they know better. What the new information doesn't do is tell you the full story of why a train may need to be detrained or its destination changed. My point was that when we need to make these decisions - which are never taken lightly because we are watched by our own management - the last thing any of us then needs is someone, say on a forum like this, posting a link of some sort of replay, complete with how they think things should have been done. Statements such as "You had a train behind and could have done x,y,z and then the original train could have done a,b,c and then the outcome would have been e,f,g." That kind of explanation is already sought on here by some. There's nothing wrong with that at all, and I am always happy to explain where I can. However, it becomes more frustrating when you are faced with an actual "playback" of what happened. Given too much information, people tend to start trying to do your job for you. Watching the data earlier, I spotted a gap on the H&C. But even I, a qualified Controller on that line, would never pass any kind of judgement because, unless I am at work, I don't have the first idea of what is actually happening.
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Post by nickf on Jun 22, 2010 17:25:46 GMT
If you zoom into Bank station, you will see that by some miracle the old King William Street Station has reopened!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2010 18:24:21 GMT
Something I've noticed. H&C Trains are labelled as "Metropolitan Train to Hammersmith/Barking" etc, is this a historical throw back to the old Met of yore?
Furthermore just to confuse matters I've seen a "Hammersmith & Circle train to Barking Sidings" as well. Its rather interesting to watch them all move ;D
Cheers, ~ TGR
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Post by harlesden on Jun 22, 2010 22:13:04 GMT
I happened to notice a train apparently proceeding beyond the terminus at Kensington Olympia and heading (lineless) towards Shepherds Bush Road
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Post by cso on Dec 14, 2010 13:46:24 GMT
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Post by flippyff on Dec 19, 2010 11:44:40 GMT
Yes, including the previous unrestricted Journey Planner timetable files. So this new improved openness has in fact restricted access. :-( Simon
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Post by cso on Dec 19, 2010 16:42:58 GMT
Yes, including the previous unrestricted Journey Planner timetable files. So this new improved openness has in fact restricted access. I'm not against registering, it means they can keep in touch about it.
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