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Post by t697 on Jun 12, 2010 14:38:23 GMT
12 June 1961, first A60 stock in passenger service, so today the earliest start their 50th year of service.
Apparently the first passenger train was units 5004 and 5008.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2010 17:13:06 GMT
They'll be even older if you factor in their build date!
Happy 50th to the Cravens A60s.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2010 22:08:44 GMT
Apparently the first passenger train was units 5004 and 5008. Are these units still in service? If so it would be quite apt for them to be the last units to be withdrawn in the coming months. |
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Post by jakehn54 on Jun 12, 2010 22:43:14 GMT
I think it would be best if unit 5066 was the last A stock train to run. That being the last unit on the East London Line and for Shoreditch as well.
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Post by Ben on Jun 12, 2010 22:50:15 GMT
Well 5008 is no more in the same form, but 5004 is I think. So theres your compromise; 5004+5066  |
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Post by metman on Jun 12, 2010 23:46:01 GMT
Yes quite true, 5004 is also a single ender De-icer!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2010 18:23:22 GMT
I can say that Metropolitan line management do intend to comemorate the 50th anniversary of the A stock and have asked staff for thier ideas, i don't think my higher ups would be averse to propsitions from the general public, if anyone wants to know how to forward ideas please get in touch with me
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Post by Oracle on Jun 23, 2010 18:50:32 GMT
A railtour would be nice, running on those parts of the system that the stock is permitted over. I have a shot of a unit in Barking sidings in a copy of UndergrounD, so can A Stock run to Barking at least in service? Also, oddities such as Uxbridge Sidings, Watford siding...
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Post by 21146 on Jun 23, 2010 21:14:00 GMT
"Wrap" a 4-car double-ended unit in "unpainted" silver vinyl, red car numbers/LT fleetnames and white-on-black destination blinds.
A rail-tour on the whole of the Met and maybe down to Acton Town!
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Post by metman on Jun 23, 2010 21:16:45 GMT
Sounds great! I'll be there!
Hopefully there will be a silver unit in a few years in preservation!
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Post by slugabed on Jun 23, 2010 21:19:10 GMT
How's about doing a Sarah siddons with the shoegear,and taking one for a spin on the East London Line?
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Post by gantshill on Jun 23, 2010 21:22:25 GMT
... and as well as the ELR, a loco hauled trip to Aylesbury - or even Quainton Road? (I can dream!)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2010 22:08:02 GMT
Going up the stanmore branch could be an idea for a railtour, especially considering the jubilee might have new signalling by october.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2010 1:41:44 GMT
... and as well as the ELR, a loco hauled trip to Aylesbury - or even Quainton Road? (I can dream!) That would be, quite simply, amazing. How about an Amersham - Upminster run, or Aylesbury - Shoeburyness ( V  V ) |
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Post by bassmike on Jun 24, 2010 17:25:19 GMT
ruislip siding north acton ealing broadway & back!
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Post by citysig on Jun 24, 2010 21:17:46 GMT
At the risk of this turning into a "fantasy" thread...
Get a 4-car. Stick it on the Chesham branch. Fill it full of people who don't want to see the crumbling A-stock go. Lock both the train and Chalfont junction up and throw away the key ;D ;D
Sorry. Did I say that out loud?
Seriously, it would be quite fitting if they bowed out on their 50th birthday. But maybe allow whatever "tribute" is arranged to be on the line that has been their main home for those 50 years. After all, a day of trotting up and down the Met, would see many more followers given the chance of a last ride than if a handful were taken on a magical mystery tour.
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Post by Ben on Jun 24, 2010 22:37:07 GMT
But if other units were in service still at that point the only difference between it and a regular train would be a headboard.
Theres also an historical precident for running rail tours over more unusual parts, such as the 83 tour, the farewell R stock, the farewell CO/CP stock, the 38s leaving tour.
If they do survive past 50 then theres the chance for 2 events. Thing is though A stock 50 is a celebration of the stock and LTs legacy of design more than the line on which it has run, although the two are certainly inseperable in more than a few instances.
Perhaps a compromise that included some of the Mets former territory would be appropriate?
Something like Whitechapel - Stanmore might be doable.
A fast Ammersham - City run is always good fun, but its too mundane and normal. Something a bit unusual would surely be more fun and attract a larger following?
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Post by Chris M on Jun 24, 2010 22:44:27 GMT
I certainly think that whatever is done, a celebration of the stock's 50th birthday should see it running under it's own power.
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Post by ruislip on Jun 25, 2010 1:12:06 GMT
A fast Ammersham - City run is always good fun, but its too mundane and normal. Something a bit unusual would surely be more fun and attract a larger following? Like an all-stations Amersham-Aldgate run, or an Uxbridge-Moorgate non-stopping Rayners Lane, West Harrow, Harrow on the Hill, Northwick Park, Preston Rd, and Wembley Park--but stopping at the Met platforms at Neasden and Willesden Green? |
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Post by Chris M on Jun 25, 2010 1:30:50 GMT
Willesden Green-Amersham-Watford-Baker Street-Uxbridge-Neasden-Chesham-Aldgate perhaps?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2010 1:36:54 GMT
Stanmore in A stock sounds fun.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2010 7:55:03 GMT
Can A stock go up the Stanmore line? I know the line was built by the Met, but I thought that the A stock is wider than any of the old Met coaches. And presumably any new works on the line postwar would have used tube stock clearances.
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Post by harlesden on Jun 25, 2010 8:32:29 GMT
. A fast Ammersham - City run is always good fun, more fun It was way more fun when the trains reached 70mph on the fast stretch. Is there still a train in the timetable that runs non-stop between Finchley Road and Moor Park? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2010 10:39:51 GMT
Can A stock go up the Stanmore line? I know the line was built by the Met, but I thought that the A stock is wider than any of the old Met coaches. And presumably any new works on the line postwar would have used tube stock clearances. A stock is unresricted between Finchley Road (except platforms 2 & 3) and Stanmore (except platform 1). Tube height buffers in platform 1 at Stanmore prevent A stock in passenger. The options for access to the Jubilee would either mean a reversal off platform 4 at Finchley Road, a reversal off platform 3 at Neasden or enter traffic for the start of the farewell off platform 3 at Wembley Park. It was way more fun when the trains reached 70mph on the fast stretch. Is there still a train in the timetable that runs non-stop between Finchley Road and Moor Park? A stock had a design speed of 60 and the line speed was generally that subject to lower speeds in certain places, except the Main Lines north of Harrow North Junction which are still 70 for the big railway. There have been no booked Met fast services through Harrow for some years though I seem to recall a period during the 1990's when it operated for at least one timetable, over to you MRFS. Though fast Watfords ran through to North Harrow and fast Uxbridges ran through to West Harrow during this time. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2010 12:40:55 GMT
Line speed on the fasts north of Harrow is still 60mph for the Chilterns too.
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Post by ruislip on Jun 25, 2010 16:34:00 GMT
. A fast Ammersham - City run is always good fun, more fun It was way more fun when the trains reached 70mph on the fast stretch. Is there still a train in the timetable that runs non-stop between Finchley Road and Moor Park? At one time the through trains between Chesham and the City ran fast between Finchley Rd and Moor Pk. |
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Post by ruislip on Jun 25, 2010 16:35:39 GMT
There have been no booked Met fast services through Harrow for some years though I seem to recall a period during the 1990's when it operated for at least one timetable, over to you MRFS. Though fast Watfords ran through to North Harrow and fast Uxbridges ran through to West Harrow during this time. The semi-fasts to/from Uxbridge and Watford served Harrow-on-the-Hill starting in 1975, according to Mike Horne's history of the Met published by Capital Transport. |
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Post by metman on Jun 25, 2010 17:19:39 GMT
I was lead to believe A stock was designed for 70mph running when built.
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