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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2010 15:08:05 GMT
I am looking at converting a Hornby Dublo Breakdown Crane into a model of the Metropolitan crane which became C604 and was scrapped in 1965. The only measurment I have is the jib length of 28'6". Was this measured from the pivot to the tip or only up as far as the head? Also, what was the total height from the railhead of this crane without the chimney extension?
If any one has any measurements for this crane or its runners I would be extrememy grateful. I am guessing that the match wagon and four-wheel tool van ran on the standard long-wheelbase chassis length of 22' with a 12' 6" wheelbase. The converted milk van if the only vehicle that I have a drawing for. The bogie van was possibly built on the underframe of one of the experimental electric motor cars of 1900. This is all I have! Once again, thanks in advance.
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Post by tubeprune on May 28, 2010 20:56:29 GMT
I am looking at converting a Hornby Dublo Breakdown Crane into a model of the Metropolitan crane which became C604 and was scrapped in 1965. The only measurment I have is the jib length of 28'6". Was this measured from the pivot to the tip or only up as far as the head? Also, what was the total height from the railhead of this crane without the chimney extension? If any one has any measurements for this crane or its runners I would be extrememy grateful. I am guessing that the match wagon and four-wheel tool van ran on the standard long-wheelbase chassis length of 22' with a 12' 6" wheelbase. The converted milk van if the only vehicle that I have a drawing for. The bogie van was possibly built on the underframe of one of the experimental electric motor cars of 1900. This is all I have! Once again, thanks in advance. PM me with an email address and I send you the GA of it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2010 0:04:03 GMT
Would I be correct in assuming that the bogie van (BD703) had Fox bogies? I have a spare pair so that would make life s-o-o-o-o much easier. Using the drawing in the Snowdon book of the two long MET brake vans (24 and 25, later B553/4) and a serious amount of guesswork I have put together a drawing of said vehicle. It may not be completely accurate but, as a guesstimate, it should look the part once enough paint to hide its deficiencies has been applied. I just have to build it.....
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Post by tubeprune on Jun 12, 2010 14:29:43 GMT
All I can tell you is that the late Ken Benest wrote that BD703 was mounted on spare bogies of the same type as used on the bogie stock and that the underframe was also of the bogie stock type.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2010 22:01:26 GMT
Thanks for that Tubeprune. The suggesation that BD703 was built on the underframe of one of the Experimental electric train motor cars came from the James R Snowdon 'Metropolitan Rolling Stock' book. The underframe dimensions of the experimental electric motor car were identical to the bogie stock as was the bogie spacing so that's good enough for me! I shall use the spare set of Fox bogies I have for it too. From the few close-up pictures I have seen of the three breakdown 'Runners' they appear to have also had Mansell wheels with wooden centres unlike most other vehicles of the day which had split-spoked wheels. All I need to do is find a source of 12mm ones for the three 'runners'. Thanks again.
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Post by tubeprune on Jun 13, 2010 7:16:08 GMT
Much of the information in Jim's book comes from a series of articles Ken Benest wrote for Underground News in the early 1960s.
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Post by metnumber1 on Jul 27, 2010 11:33:27 GMT
I was at Neasden Depot in 1963 during that very cold winter. We needed to use the steam crane - for what purpose I can not now recall, but the damned thing was frozen solid, and I remember helping to try and unfreeze it, which took best part of the day to do - and then I don't think we suceeded. Happy days.
Jim Stringer
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