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Post by thirstquensher on May 26, 2010 23:04:03 GMT
Yes, it's getting closer, and none of my September 2009 attempts really cut the mustard, I felt. Now that I am comfortable with the fact that a TfL rail mode CAN get away with NOT showing zones on their diagrams (Overground, I'm looking at you), then I see no reason why DLR can't do the same. So, liberated from that requirement, I have come up with this - much, much neater than the versions I did a few months ago. Only thing is that it could do with elongating horizontally, but I drew it on a page set up for the same width as the previous versions, but taller. Then there's the mention of some zones and not others. That probably doesn't need to be there at all. Not if twinned with my square version from last September that DOES have the zones. www.flickr.com/photos/92438714@N00/4636587927/ |
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Post by mrfs42 on May 26, 2010 23:24:39 GMT
I like this - as I *very* infrequently travel on the DLR (usually only to have a meal at West India Quay!), I'm not sure of the routes on the rest of the network - something like this would be a boon for me.
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Post by thirstquensher on May 29, 2010 23:29:19 GMT
OK - I think I've solved the zones problem - also I've neatened up the top a little. I placed the Z2/3 blurb in the space usually occupied by the wheelchair symbol blurb on the LO/LU maps. www.flickr.com/photos/92438714@N00/4650739475/ |
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Post by Chris M on May 30, 2010 0:54:42 GMT
The zone thing looks good I think, but there is way too little contrast between the colours
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2010 10:07:25 GMT
Why the notation that some trains reverse at Mudshute? The LU diagrams don't say that some Picc trains reverse before they get to Stanmore. Indeed, there is nothing on the LU diagram to show that many southbound Northern trains terminate at Kennington.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2010 10:17:09 GMT
The LU diagrams don't say that some Picc trains reverse before they get to Stanmore Because Stanmore isn't on the Piccadilly line.  I like thirstquensher's interpretation, but I have a question: Where did you get the font!?  |
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Post by andypurk on May 30, 2010 10:47:15 GMT
Indeed, there is nothing on the LU diagram to show that many southbound Northern trains terminate at Kennington. There was for a while: There was a dotted line between Kennington (Charing Cross branch) and the line to Morden with a note stating that through services only ran during peak times. |
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Post by mrfs42 on May 30, 2010 11:04:52 GMT
I like thirstquensher's interpretation, but I have a question: Where did you get the font!? You buy it. clicky. |
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Post by thirstquensher on May 30, 2010 14:27:27 GMT
Yep - that's what I did... honestly guv!  |
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2010 16:24:12 GMT
Thanks for the link to the font. I might just go for this one.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2010 17:56:13 GMT
I think West India Quay should show the times trains don't stop there rather than referring to "peak hours". If there's a space problem, use a "†" as LUL do and have a "footnote" elsewhere on the map.
Also agree with comment re Mudchute. It's not house style to show short-workings (although I suppose a symbol could easily be developed/adapted e.g. "§").
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Post by franknapo on May 30, 2010 18:11:55 GMT
But the only time trains terminate at Mudchute is when a train is running really late. Or if there is problems Greenwich way
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Post by thirstquensher on May 30, 2010 18:29:49 GMT
My understanding was that, just as there were regularly Crossharbour terminators, that there will be regular Mudchute terminators once StratInt opens. In fact, the note was originally placed next to Crossharbour when it applied there (since many people would miss the fact that not all Southbound trains leaving from Canary Wharf were going all the way to Lewisham; hence the note).
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2010 20:57:29 GMT
..........there will be regular Mudchute terminators once StratInt opens. I'm wondering how the Stratford International trains (which will operate to Beckton and Woolwich) can have an impact on trains to Mudchute. |
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Post by thirstquensher on May 31, 2010 9:59:23 GMT
Well, I can't remember reading the logic behind it, only the assertion. Which may of course had had no basis in fact. Until the thing opens it seems no-one will know for sure.
Whatever the reason, I always assumed it would be for exactly the same reason there used to be Crossharbour teminators (and there were, for many years - so no reason to assume that was done for no reason).
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2010 12:53:18 GMT
One of the DLR annoyances of recent times has been the end of the through service from Stratford to Lewisham, all trains going south now being turned at Canary Wharf. This means that if travelling from Greenwich to the Beckton or Woolwich routes, a double change is now needed within half a mile, at Canary Wharf and at Poplar. Of course, the timetables were arranged so there are no convenient direct connections ......
The same also applies if you make the more convenient change from the Jubilee to Heron Quay rather than to Canary Wharf DLR (which makes a triple change in a similar distance). This is necessary on weekend dates when the Jubilee is not going beyond North Greenwich.
This terminating of the Stratford trains at Canary Wharf a short while ago had very little publicity. I sincerely hope that if this service is now partially returned as far as Mudchute there is not ridiculous self-congratulation on "improving the service", because it will not be as good as what was previously provided.
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Post by davidp on May 31, 2010 13:17:15 GMT
Monday to Friday peak hour trains from Stratford do continue south beyond Canary Wharf either to Crossharbour or Lewisham but as others have said and with no publicity from the DLR, most now terminate at the Wharf.
Oh, and all Monday to Friday daytime trains (until 7pm) from Bank to Lewisham use the avoiding line around West India Quay not just peak hour ones.
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Post by thirstquensher on Jun 15, 2010 20:29:36 GMT
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The killjoys have finally had their way... no I have no refuge left...
