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Post by bicbasher on May 1, 2010 17:08:47 GMT
Just wondering if the two LUL operated stations on the ELL are now selling the full range of National Rail paper tickets?
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2010 17:55:30 GMT
I would of guess their would be a overground ticket machine???, i maybe wrong :S.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2010 17:57:07 GMT
It's been a few years since I've worked in a booking office, but no LUL operated booking office offers the full range of NR tickets, even the stations once known as section 14 stations like Greenford/ West Ruislip. Most LUL stations will offer fares within the old Network Southeast area, although there are some exceptions.
From memory West Ruislip offered fares as far as Birmingham - for the Chiltern Rail service and that tended to be the rule.
I'm guessing that the station range offered by the LUL East London Line stations wouldn't change and would've been offered previously, but the ability to sell tickets with railcard discounts would be a new feature.
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Post by 21146 on May 1, 2010 19:56:51 GMT
Isn't it the case that stations betweem Dalston Junction and Surrey Quays were not part of NR under LU, and are still not part of NR under LO (even the new bit), so only have to offer a limited number of NR destination fares? We've had this discussion before - i.e. this is why Dalson Kingsland has a double arrow outside it but Dalston Junction doesn't. Presumably all the ex-STS and ex-Southern stations have to offer the full NR range?
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Post by bicbasher on May 1, 2010 21:07:16 GMT
In that case, a Canada Water passenger who may fancy a day trip to Brighton or apply for a Y-P railcard may have to travel to Surrey Quays instead?
Wikipedia's East London Line page now shows a National Rail single ticket with the green roundel in the middle as standard at LO stations printed at Rotherhithe station for a £1.60 single to Canada Water.
Incidentally LOROL stations south of New Cross Gate don't have the green roundel yet on paper tickets and I don't think any of them have been Oyster enabled at the ticket office with only 3 weeks to go until launch.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2010 18:37:55 GMT
It's been a few years since I've worked in a booking office, but no LUL operated booking office offers the full range of NR tickets, even the stations once known as section 14 stations like Greenford/ West Ruislip. Most LUL stations will offer fares within the old Network Southeast area, although there are some exceptions. From memory West Ruislip offered fares as far as Birmingham - for the Chiltern Rail service and that tended to be the rule. What about Moorgate? Does/did that station sell NR tickets?
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2010 21:37:25 GMT
Yes. All LUL ticket offices will sell a range of NR destination tickets, quite a large number of stations in the South East. Some stations would sell an enhanced range. Moorgate would be one of these.
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Post by londonboy on May 3, 2010 8:07:28 GMT
Moorgate is what we now call a "Book 6" station which were known as section 14 stations before the change from ticket office procedures handbook to ticket office rule books rule book 6 applies to stations that sell an enhanced range of national rail tickets including 7 day returns. The ticket office I work in is not a book 6 one so we can only sell day returns to NR destinations
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Post by messiah on May 3, 2010 18:11:14 GMT
I had a play with the overground ticket machine at Rotherhithe today, and it was offering a range of fairs to Newcastle including the Super Off-Peak return.
Destinations also included Newcastle (Metro) which included travel on some of the Newcastle metro system.
Didn't check if railcards were an option, but thought it would based on the other functionality.
Slightly off topic - how useful was it to be able to go Rotherhithe - Shadwell - Canary Wharf and back when the jubilee is suspended for the weekend. It doesn't seem to have been a big issue, but having all the Jubilee weekend closures at the same time as the ELL was closed was a major headache for the Canada Water area.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2010 18:26:45 GMT
Interesting... I'm certain that I have a few old 'yellow stock' LUL tickets in my collection that have a new NR destinations on them...
Certainly I remember playing around with an old APTIS ticket machine, and apart from the shared LUL/BR stations [as was, like Greenford, Barking, Highbury etc], you could 'step up' and issue a ticket to any LUL station, simply by inputting that station's Location Code. Not sure if you can do this on the new machines... LUL station codes used to start within the 0501-06xx something range...
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Post by bicbasher on May 3, 2010 20:56:31 GMT
I'm sure the LUL ticket machines pre-Oyster with the station buttons on had some of the busier NR stations such as East Croydon and Clapham Junction on them?
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2010 17:31:53 GMT
The ones with a button for every station? Yes, I think you are right.
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Post by happybunny on May 4, 2010 18:22:20 GMT
Do the LUL/NR (book 6) stations have the ability to make reservations? Or sell advance purchase tickets ?
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Post by londonboy on May 4, 2010 18:52:26 GMT
Do the LUL/NR (book 6) stations have the ability to make reservations? Or sell advance purchase tickets ? Not as far as I know even though im an SAMF i have never worked or had any training at a book 6 station. I Know they can sell 7 day returns with a railcard discount as i have bought tickets from Farringdon LUL ticket office to Gatwick with a railcard. We can issue travelcards (one day included) to start on a future date, but not singles or returns, so i would very much doubt if they would sell advance single and returns for other operators if they do not allow them to be issued for LUL
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Post by bicbasher on May 4, 2010 22:31:40 GMT
The ones with a button for every station? Yes, I think you are right. Yes, they had all the LUL stations, poss DLR and a limited selection of NR stations which I think were in purple? I remember hoping that Forest Hill would be one of those stations, but it wasn't, although if those machines were still around, it would be now it's a LOROL station.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2010 19:22:27 GMT
I can't honestly remember what NR stations were included on the buttons themselves... however, I did come across this pic... The blue ones I think would have been the DLR selection... plus I can remember seeing Ongar still on a machine, in 1995!
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2010 13:17:27 GMT
The idea of having a button for every single station on the network sounds utterly bizarre now!
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Post by bicbasher on May 10, 2010 11:07:09 GMT
The idea of having a button for every single station on the network sounds utterly bizarre now! You'd need a much larger vending machine for all those extra LO stations for starters!
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2010 18:15:57 GMT
The idea of having a button for every single station on the network sounds utterly bizarre now! You'd need a much larger vending machine for all those extra LO stations for starters! ;D
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